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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
118 Posts |
 Posted - 05/12/2009 : 14:13:30
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Well a few months ago I found an old (93 model) Power wheels barbie edition Jeep sitting on the side of the road. It looked in rough shape but it had batteries and seemed to just need some TLC. Took it home and put power to the motors and they fired right up. Cool...
So the teardown began. I tore the whole thing down to a pile of parts to begin the planning stage. This build will get larger rubber tires, solid axles built from scratch with a coil spring suspension located with control arms, LED's-a-plenty, possibly a rollbar/cage, full paint job, and new batteries.
Progress is slow cause I collect projects so hopefully this one will begin to take shape before my son graduates college. He's almost 18 months old so by the time this is finished he should really be able to do something with it. He has been fascinated with ANYTHING with wheels from day 1 so playing in daddy's garage is lots of fun.
So far I have removed all the stickers and decals. Tossed anything that was pink. Mocked up the rear axle and am in the process of getting the suspension worked out. Tires are in. They come out to be 13" tall and 5" wide with a good AT tread. I ordered batteries today.
I have some picts and will work on getting those posted soon.
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2009 : 15:05:38
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Here's the gearboxes pulled apart and greased up. I removed the center hub bushing and drilled the housing so the axle rod would fit through.
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Here's the tires I'm using. They were purchased at surplus center for around $10 each.
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The bare body. It needs pressure washing and a little sanding before paint. Still not sure what color scheme this will be.
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
118 Posts |
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
118 Posts |
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hootienchyna
Advanced Modder
Ronkonkoma
New York 11779
2590 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2009 : 15:31:38
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| very cool, keep us updated. cant wait to see the suspension |
visit www.mltoyz.com for used parts
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cuarto_bate
Journeyman Modder
Isabela
Puerto Rico
USA
147 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2009 : 18:16:43
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| Scoutman can you give the internet address of the surplus center? |
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2009 : 20:15:09
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Originally posted by cuarto_bate
Scoutman can you give the internet address of the surplus center?
It's just www.surpluscenter.com
The wheels I got are these.. https://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2009051321583487&item=1-1789&catname=wheels
The wheels have plastic rims that weigh about 4# lighter than their metal counterparts. The original plan for the wheel to gearbox solution was to make an adapter out of pipe. Find some pipe that fit over the hub of the wheel, cut 4 slots in it to engage the webs of the wheel, weld a washer to the end of the pipe and screw that washer to the plastic piece on the gearbox. I found out that the plastic piece wasn't needed. The output gear on the gearbox was a slip fit over the hub of the wheel and all that was needed was a hoseclamp. I may find out later that I need some rubber hose to help transfer the power but for now I'll try this.
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
118 Posts |
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kastoo
Journeyman Modder
Lagrange
GA
USA
296 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2009 : 21:44:43
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| Cool looking so far! One question though..haha: If you call yourself Scoutman as in IH Scout you better not tell the IH nuts..they hate Jeeps, haha! |
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 05/14/2009 : 10:24:24
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Originally posted by kastoo
Cool looking so far! One question though..haha: If you call yourself Scoutman as in IH Scout you better not tell the IH nuts..they hate Jeeps, haha!
Well my first love is my 76 Scout II and I'm an Eagle Scout so Scoutman sort of stuck. I do however own 3 Jeeps including a brand new Rubicon Unlimited, a highly modified XJ and a daily driver XJ. I've got enough 4x4 love to go around.  Heck even my Ram 3500 is 4x4.  |
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cfanto
Journeyman Modder
Tracy
CA
USA
406 Posts |
Posted - 05/14/2009 : 10:49:21
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Per someone else's thread (sorry don't remember the name) Headlight mod using Harbor Freight lights. I still need to figure out how to make them not blink.
Awesome work so far! Can't wait to see how you fabricate the suspension.
As for how to make those lights be "steady" on, I posted instructions & pics of where to resolder one of the leads so that it bypasses the transistor.
Page 3 of Yellow Jeep project ... about the middle of the page.
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 05/14/2009 : 14:13:46
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Cool, I think I understand that now. I believe when I put the lights in you didn't have those 2 detailed picts posted. So un-solder the switch and move the positive lead to the resistor so it by-passes it. Easy enough.
I want to put 3 led's in each of the front amber lights/blinkers and put a pair of rubber grommet red trailer lights in the rear. I'll probably change the switches out to some with lights and add some others as they come to mind.
I'm still working on how to get the suspension arms worked out. Idealy they would go straight forward but since the floorboard is there they will need to be bent or attach to a crossmember that would have to be fab'd. |
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treebeme
Advanced Modder
Holtsville
NY
USA
3209 Posts |
Posted - 05/14/2009 : 14:32:41
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| You could go with a transverse leaf spring. It's probably the simpliest suspension you could put on it. Not sure where you would get the spring though. Maybe an old compound bow? |
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KFX Quad (24v scooter controller, MFJ 12t gearboxes/motors)
Fire Rescue Jeep (24v scooter controller, 15t #7 gearboxes/motors)
Franken(berry)beast (24v scooter controller, 2-250Watt Scooter motors)
Grave Digger (21T gearboxes)
Super Shock
Razor MX-350 Motorcycle
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
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treebeme
Advanced Modder
Holtsville
NY
USA
3209 Posts |
Posted - 05/15/2009 : 08:39:39
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| Depending on how stiff they are, you could run the springs horizontally as sort of a flexible leading link and all you would need is a single cross link/sway bar to keep the axle carrier from swinging sideways on you. |
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Screamin Demon (600 watt scooter motor, 36v scooter controller)
Red Harley (trike, 24v scooter controller, 13t MFJ gearboxes/motors)
KFX Quad (24v scooter controller, MFJ 12t gearboxes/motors)
Fire Rescue Jeep (24v scooter controller, 15t #7 gearboxes/motors)
Franken(berry)beast (24v scooter controller, 2-250Watt Scooter motors)
Grave Digger (21T gearboxes)
Super Shock
Razor MX-350 Motorcycle
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Jeep Wrangler (on hold)
Barbie Cruzin Tunes Jeep (24v scooter controller)
TCV Indy Racer (24v scooter controller)
Gator (on hold)
Silverado Dragster (on hold)
Apache (on hold)
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treebeme
Advanced Modder
Holtsville
NY
USA
3209 Posts |
Posted - 05/15/2009 : 10:20:07
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My old R/C car rear suspension was merely the floorpan extending straight back in the middle. The material was flexible enough for it to push up and down and twist.
If you ran a single leaf spring down the middle and welded it to that custom axle carrier you made that would probably be enough to work as a decent rear suspension. Assuming you could secure it to the frame well enough. |
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Screamin Demon (600 watt scooter motor, 36v scooter controller)
Red Harley (trike, 24v scooter controller, 13t MFJ gearboxes/motors)
KFX Quad (24v scooter controller, MFJ 12t gearboxes/motors)
Fire Rescue Jeep (24v scooter controller, 15t #7 gearboxes/motors)
Franken(berry)beast (24v scooter controller, 2-250Watt Scooter motors)
Grave Digger (21T gearboxes)
Super Shock
Razor MX-350 Motorcycle
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Jeep Wrangler (on hold)
Barbie Cruzin Tunes Jeep (24v scooter controller)
TCV Indy Racer (24v scooter controller)
Gator (on hold)
Silverado Dragster (on hold)
Apache (on hold)
Metal big wheel (24v scooter controller)
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 05/22/2009 : 07:10:51
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Well after MANY hours of head scratching and mocking up parts and pieces of scrap I have finially made my mind up on the suspension. I spec'd out all the parts yesterday on McMaster Carr and they should be here this afternoon!!
I'm going with a one link suspension. There will be another frame crossmember welded in behind the floorboard that will support the 2 bushings on the frame side. There will be a rod end with stud mounted on the axle side. The suspension arm will sort of look like an 'A' if that makes any sense.
Also in the order is the all thread and rod ends for the steering.
I'm going to work some on it this weekend and I'll try to get some picts up on the progress. |
Project metal framed Jeep with suspension, axles, etc.
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
118 Posts |
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JohnNY
Apprentice Modder
Rochester
New York
USA
70 Posts |
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TXST8tj
Journeyman Modder
Katy
TX
USA
166 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 08:07:49
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| if the one link setup doesn't work, a simple 4 link in the rear and 3 link up front would be easy enough to do with some heim joints at the ends. |
Project Sarge - a Jeep build
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2009 : 17:42:15
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My problem with doing something like a 3 or 4 link is that turns out to be a lot of hiems (14-16 at $3.50 each). So far I think the 1 link with panhard is going to work fine. Everything is only tack'd right now in case I don't like it or come up with a better option.
I made another McMaster Carr order and got 2 more 5/16" female hiems, 2 5/16" clevis's, and another stick of all-thread for the panhard (track bars) front and rear. Here are a few picts of the front axle, and the rough'd out rear suspension. There are 2 bars that haven't been welded on yet that will triangulate off the center link. They will keep the axle from twisting and tie everything together.
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2009 : 17:52:08
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My wife found this at a garage sale for $5 this morning. Since Tristan is only 18 months old, I had been looking for a smaller 6v PW for him to get used to before he stepped up to the big Jeep. This is perfect, the price was right, it works beautifully, has the charger, and did I mention it was only 6 houses down! The stickers are a bit faded but they'll be coming off soon enough. He loves it and will be a great transistion for him.
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bdiamond
Apprentice Modder
Wichita Falls
Texas
USA
75 Posts |
Posted - 06/13/2009 : 14:38:32
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| Whats going to keep the rear axle square. I don't think a single link and a panhard bar will do it.Is there something I'm not seeing? |
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Fortis
Senior Modder
melbourne
victoria
Australia
1154 Posts |
Posted - 06/13/2009 : 15:27:33
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First of all; Lovely job on the front axle layout and design.
You have achieved elegance.
Now I am going to throw a couple of rocks.
Just tack welds won't do. And now that I have mentioned it, they will not do for your peace of mind even before they fail in reality. Spend the ten min to run the verticles.
The rear axle is going to need something to keep it from being a four-wheel-steering arraingement. Because of the way our motors drive, the vehicle does not actually NEED a rear axle if you can weld worth a damn. Consider two independent arms pivotingfrom just behind mid-point in the chasis and with the spring and everything else right wheer you have it. You simultaneously buy independent rear suspension, better ground clearence and rock solid wheel orientation. (Think the rear stub axles on an old Mini, or the way that dirt bikes run their rear wheels X2)
You can use the same pivot system for the whole axle, but then you have both rear wheels "bouncing" at once. At least it assures orientation
Back tot he front axle...You have built something wonderful and strudy and superior...Why did you not make the RHS segment shorter, the axle stubs longer and add two more gearboxes/motors to end up with 4wheel drive? It is such a prime candidate for it!!! (And the extra drive power spread around all four wheels will help with the over-grip skip and stress issues of the pnuematic wheels).
Just some notions to throw around. But it is seriously impressive work you've done so far!
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2009 : 08:52:58
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Well I had written a long response but it seems I was not logged in so it got lost. Oh well here goes again...
Rest assured that all joints will be welded up solid. The tack's are only temporairy until I make sure that all things are where I want them. I keep changing how I want things to work so it does me no good to weld them up just yet.
Thanks for the kudo's on the front end. I was pleased with how it turned out too. I had thought about making the spindles longer and the axle tube shorter to accomodate front wheel drive motors but I don't have those in hand right now and really want to see how these motors do before I convert to 4x4. It wont' be hard to make the changes necessairy for that. If anyone has an extra set of motors that they would be willing to give or sell to make this happen, let me know.
As for the suspension design, a one link with panhard will hold everything square and where it needs to be while allowing everything to flex as desired. The beauty is that they are simple and there are not a lot of links and brackets that are needed. Also they flex like mad and will be a good setup for such a small application. Note earlier that I said there are 2 triangulated bars that are missing from the picture that will keep the axle square with the frame. I still have some things to work out but when I do I'll post new picts.
My dad replaced the gas struts that were on the camper shell of his truck and they may find their way on here in place of the coils. We'll see.
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cxjon
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
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coil50
Apprentice Modder
delphos
oh
USA
80 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2009 : 21:27:29
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| i have found some coil over shocks on ebay that are for a mountain bike and are about 5 inches long, there doesnt seem to be as many on ebay since last time i looked but keep an eye out they look perfect for a pw. |
http://www.modifiedpowerwheels.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11053
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Taz11
Advanced Modder
Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ
3739 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2009 : 05:09:51
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I'm guessing that (from your choice of materials) that you have a racing background.
I've always wanted to do a project like this. Nice job.
Just a note, when your little driver gets board of that little quad, throw in a second 6v 4.5ah battery in series. Takes about 15 min. and is a major improvement. |
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 08/18/2009 : 10:23:25
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Well it's been a while since I've worked on this and got back into it the other night.
Thanks for the tip on the shocks, I'm still not totally set on the coils I plan to use but they should work for now, they just wont' give much flex. I got to adding up all the weight that the coils 'could' see and it may not be too bad. By the time you think of 2 30# kids, batteries, body, frame, etc the coils could easily be supporting 80-100# of weight.
No race background here, just 4x4's. We have 3 jeeps, a Dodge Ram, and and IH Scout. All 4x4's. Oh and I'm the president of the local 4x4 club. :-)
Anyway, back to the fab'n. I didn't like the angles that the one link suspensions were giving so I decided to make a belly skid and integrate the link mounts into that. I also didn't like the angle of the panhard so I ripped that off too and built a better and lower mount. The crossmember is cut on a CNC plasma and then dimpled for strength. It's 16 ga, very light and very strong now. I have to cut some more parts this week to keep progress.
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Schnoz
Apprentice Modder
Clarkston
Wa
USA
55 Posts |
Posted - 08/18/2009 : 11:37:30
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| Scoutman your not the guy from NAXJA.org are you? Its a jeep xj forum that somebody on there mentioned this site, and before I even bought a pw I was hooked... |
Ford f-150 painted ford blue with white interior and white racing stripes. upgraded to a gruber 12v 10ah(completed)
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 08/18/2009 : 11:46:58
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Yea, I'm on there. 2 of our Jeeps are XJ's (one stock and the other is very not stock :-) I had a d44 rear build and a tucked winch thread a while back that had lots of attention.
I'm LapisXJ over there. |
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mjmbrown
Journeyman Modder
West Richland
WA
USA
380 Posts |
Posted - 08/18/2009 : 14:52:34
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| very cool, im an avid 4x4 man myself, mostly yotas and i have a jeep grand that i want to deconstruct once we get a new family suburban. i sadly sold my once prized 4x4. and now live vicariously through my son. hoping that once i get done with school i can afford to pick the hobby back up and teach him the ways, but for now im currently doing the same 4x4 conversion on his jeep. nothing like this though i am taking notes. thanks for the cool build! |
"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough."
- Mario Andretti.
Current Fleet:
Gaucho 4.0
Gator-painted and bedliner
Kawasaki SuperShock
Super6 Blue Thunder
"RC" ToyStory Eliminator
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BonnerBB
Senior Modder
Houston
Texas
USA
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Schnoz
Apprentice Modder
Clarkston
Wa
USA
55 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2009 : 15:10:46
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| building my sons PW's are so much cheaper than my Jeep. Hence why it only sits 1" above stock at the moment and has an exhaust leak that makes it sound like a big block... |
Ford f-150 painted ford blue with white interior and white racing stripes. upgraded to a gruber 12v 10ah(completed)
Firerock Jeep upgraded to 12v and painting black and red(with skulls) |
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2009 : 08:32:02
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I'm not sure of the weight. I'm trying to keep it down as much as I can and still keep things rigid for the suspension. The tires are 6# each if I remember right. Even if I add 20-30# to the whole thing, and if for the most part only one kid is in it then it should be ok. I'll probably have to step up to 18v when the time comes.
Oh and yesterday afternoon I got the link mount bar that will attach to the crossmember fab'd up. It's made out of 1/2" x 1" tube. Haven't taken picts yet.
BTW, if anyone has a second set of motors for this ap, please let me know. |
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djssnowgod
Expert Modder
Elkhorn
Wisconsin
USA
502 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2009 : 09:36:30
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| Looks awesome makes me wish I had a welder and some skill. |
Dream Carriage @ 6 Volts
Super Shock
Harley Pink Stock
Metal Jeep bigger tires @ 18 Volts, Adding a lift soon as well as 4wd
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2009 : 10:10:43
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Well after browsing through Lowes I found some springs that may work. They are keeper springs to keep a door or gate from swinging open too far. I took them apart and they seem to have a pretty good rate.
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I got some good work done on the rear suspension but realized I didn't take picts yet.
I did get some of the rear tail lights. Sunday morning I got the harbor freight LED headlights fixed so they don't blink and got the switches cut off.
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2009 : 20:48:06
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It may not look like much but progress is being made.
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The drag link is cut. The front A arm is cut and tack'd together. The rear track bar (panhard bar) bracket is tack'd to the frame and the axle side mount is made and tack'd on. Most of the front track bar bracket is done, just need to finish up.
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Monster PW
New Member
Pt.Pleasant
wv
42 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2009 : 21:42:31
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Any idea how much the springs will compress once everything is inplace? I have been looking at go kart shocks but the lightest weight rating I have foundis 350lb each. To much for the project I'm planning! THose spring look like they may fit my project just about perfect.
Your project is looking sweet!!!Keep up the good work..can't wait to see it finished. |
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
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Posted - 09/02/2009 : 07:15:19
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| I did a little test to see how 'soft' they were and placed a 25# weight bench weight on it with one hand while holding the spring with my other hand and it compressed about 1". With the body, battery, and all the other vehicle stuff in the jeep it probably won't be noticible. With 1-2 kids at 25-40# each, will probably compress it down about an inch from resting height. That is my best guess tho. Time will tell... |
Project metal framed Jeep with suspension, axles, etc.
http://www.modifiedpowerwheels.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9341&whichpage=1 |
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drew510
Senior Modder
Portland
OR
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2009 : 08:24:19
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Originally posted by drew510
Ha! I bought those same tail lights yesterday from HF. I really wanted ones that were completely flush, but have had a hard time finding them. They look pretty good, so I am glad I took the plunge. What size hole saw did you use? 2 1/2? Your buildup is looking great BTW.
I want to say it was 2.25" but don't hold me to that. I looked at these thinking the lens stuck out too far. Turns out it wasn't pushed in the grommet all the way. That'll help make it sit more flush.
Thanks for the compliments.. |
Project metal framed Jeep with suspension, axles, etc.
http://www.modifiedpowerwheels.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9341&whichpage=1 |
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drew510
Senior Modder
Portland
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hotrodtodd
Expert Modder
Delhi
OH
USA
985 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2009 : 15:19:13
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| Great project,you have inspired me to hunt down a metal frame jeep and start welding.(I'll start a thread on it when I get a little more done on it).Keep up the good work |
 Lifted Metal Frame Jeep Kawasaki Adventure 4x4 w/trailer Power Drivers Trike Worksite GatorDriveway Racer Handy Manny 6v quad |
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
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coil50
Apprentice Modder
delphos
oh
USA
80 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2009 : 05:37:37
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| looking good, i was looking at going with those same style tailights, i saw some on a website that had a clear lens and red led's, whats the turnbuckle between the front and rear suspension used for, is that whats keeping the axles to the frame |
http://www.modifiedpowerwheels.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11053
spiderman lil quad(stock)
John deere tractor(stock)
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2009 : 07:00:26
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Originally posted by coil50
looking good, i was looking at going with those same style tailights, i saw some on a website that had a clear lens and red led's, whats the turnbuckle between the front and rear suspension used for, is that whats keeping the axles to the frame
There is a bar that is welded to the crossmember. That bar has a hole in each end to support the stud end of one of these...
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The female side of this joint goes into a 3" piece of 3/8"-24 all thread which is welded into the triangulated arms. The bottom side of the arms will get a sheet of dimple die'd metal to help tie the arms into the axle.
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Project metal framed Jeep with suspension, axles, etc.
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scoutman
Journeyman Modder
Harvest
Al
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2009 : 07:03:19
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I forgot a pict in that sequense. This shows what the links are tied to...
These joints allow the axle and arms to twist as the tires go up and down. It keeps the axle located forward/back and the panhard bar keeps it located side to side. Using 1/2" x 1" tube gives the link stud a more solid mouting point as opposed to just going through a tab. The holes are just to keep it light.
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Project metal framed Jeep with suspension, axles, etc.
http://www.modifiedpowerwheels.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9341&whichpage=1 |
Edited by - scoutman on 09/03/2009 07:06:29 |
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