This was pretty well covered in the Craigslist/Ebay section, but this will be the official thread on it. Here is the John Deere Off Road 4x4 I just picked up. It took a 240 mile round trip drive, and more than I have ever spend on a used ride on, but I think it was well worth it. It's in great shape aside from a few minor things like a loose front bumper and broken off license place, but other that that it's great. Came with brand new wheels all around, new battery and new charger and all the documentation to back it up. I've never seen one like this before, and the original owner said they had picked it up from a farm equipment store, so I'm not sure how rare it actually is, but I really don't want to mess with it too much other than bumping it up to 18V.
I paid $160. The seller had just put 4 new wheels on, and bought a new battery and charger for it, all of which added up to $170 he had just spent on it, so I think I got a good deal.
Well, Olivia approves! She opened up the Garage today and exclaimed "oh my goodness, there's a big green rider for me!" She has dubbed all of them "riders". I love those moments. I already got the bumper fixed and put a new license plate holder on. I may have to order a couple more custom Olivia license plates for this one. Now I just need it to dry up some so she can give it a good run around the yard.
LoL I know what you mean - Chloe calls her quads her "wheel-4's" And then I always reply, "4-wheeler, honey. 4-wheeler." She's like whatever, dad. Just get the batteries.
My Mechanics were hard at work tonight trying to get both Peg's ready for tomorrow. Unfortunately, despite their best efforts, I think the Apache still has some bugs to work out...
The kids took the Gaucho out for it's maiden voyage today, and were real exicited about it, but after a couple laps they decided it was too slow. Even on 12V it couldn't keep up with the PW's in our stable, so I'll be splicing in a 6V this afternoon if the weather holds up. It rides really smooth, I'm very impressed with it. The rack and pinion is a little squeeky on it, but I'm sure it just needs a little lubrication.
Edit: Wow! That was the easiest 18V conversion I ever performed. I just had to pop off the blue casing, pop the Neg terminal off the 12V and put a 6V in the middle. Big, Bang, Boom, we're on 18V and the only thing needed was a flat head screwdrive to pop the case off. Results to follow...
Edit: Wow! That was the easiest 18V conversion I ever performed. I just had to pop off the blue casing, pop the Neg terminal off the 12V and put a 6V in the middle. Big, Bang, Boom, we're on 18V and the only thing needed was a flat head screwdrive to pop the case off. Results to follow...
Can you show a pic? I would like to see how you did that. May consider trying out the buck at 18v. Although not sure how it will do with 18V. Memphis loves it but he said it wants it to go faster. I guess since I've shown him, there's no going back, lol.
6V Lil Jeep 18V Fire Rescue Jeep (SOLD) 12V Barbie Jeep (Up for grabs, any takers?) Super 6 Firerock (Up for grabs, any takers?) 12V-18V Lightning McQueen 12V Peg Perego Gator (SOLD) 12V Peg Perego John Deere Buck 12V Peg Perego Polaris 700 (gift to my nephew) 12V Peg Perego Gaucho Silver
Can you show a pic? I would like to see how you did that. May consider trying out the buck at 18v. Although not sure how it will do with 18V. Memphis loves it but he said it wants it to go faster. I guess since I've shown him, there's no going back, lol.
Sure, first I popped off one of the tabs with a flat head screwdriver.
Next, I pulled back the lid a little so I could pull the connector off the battery.
With the battery removed, it looks like just a standard 12V 12AH battery with one exception. The Positive termial is 5/16" wide instead of the usual 1/4" tabs on 12V batteries.
Then I just connected the positive cable from the Peg Battery connector back to the positive terminal on the 12V battery, Connected the Negative terminal from the 12V to the Positive on the 6V battery and the Negative on the 6V battery to the negative cable on the Peg Battery connector. In this case I used a PowerSsonic 6V 12AH battery to illustrate since my other 6V's were charging.
Then I just had to place the batteries under the hood and connect the Peg Battery connector to the main wiring harness.
Now I have to say for the first set of batteries I used this worked well, however when they ran down and I put the second set in it kept tripping the breaker as soon as it started. I'm not sure which one was tripping so I'll probably pull the one out at the battery and replace it with a 40amp fuse first to see if that solves the problem.
Edit: Here is the revised battery connector. I removed the breaker and added a 40amp Inline fuse. It's crimped and soldered in with clear heatshrink added for protection. I used the connector from the Apache instead of cutting up the new John Deere battery it came with.
Here's a quick video of the John Deere Gaucho and Turbo Sun Jammer Riding together. Both Jeeps run about the same speed now and I couldn't really tell if one was faster than the other. One of these days I'll remember to take my GPS out and get some real speeds.
that makes me feel better that the lifted jeep is just as quick as the Guacho. Since they are so hard to find
Well, a lifted Jeep with 19T gearboxes. The stock 16T would be slower
I guess I should have said an "aftermarket lift" I hate those little tires I think I am going to sell about 10 of those black tires from the copper jeeps
"Time to take a ride on the information superhighway."
Well I ended up removing the breaker from underneath the switches as well. It would run for a few laps, but then it would trip. So a little 12awg jumper did the trick. One thing I have noticed is that the Gaucho wheels seem to actually have less traction on pavement than the lifted Power Wheels Jeep. If Olivia hits the driveway at any angle other then head on after coming off the grass, it spins out every time, close to 180 degrees. She has fun doing it, but then it takes her a little bit to get lined up again for another lap. Since most of her riding is on grass here, I don't plan to add traction to the wheels, but if she were to do a lot of hard surface driving, she'd definitely need some BMX tires added.
Eric - thanks for putting all this info in this post. I went back and read up on your project when the Polaris I got kept shutting off. It was very helpful in getting the Polaris to 18V. I surprised my nephew with it this weekend. He rode it on and off part of Sunday until the battery ran low. I put it back to 12V because even after I removed the breaker from the battery, it kept tripping. I didn't have time to work on the switches so I left it 12V. He didn't mind. All of his cousins came over and he was taking turns giving rides to the little ones. It was definitely a hit.
6V Lil Jeep 18V Fire Rescue Jeep (SOLD) 12V Barbie Jeep (Up for grabs, any takers?) Super 6 Firerock (Up for grabs, any takers?) 12V-18V Lightning McQueen 12V Peg Perego Gator (SOLD) 12V Peg Perego John Deere Buck 12V Peg Perego Polaris 700 (gift to my nephew) 12V Peg Perego Gaucho Silver
Then I just connected the positive cable from the Peg Battery connector back to the positive terminal on the 12V battery, Connected the Negative terminal from the 12V to the Positive on the 6V battery and the Negative on the 6V battery to the negative cable on the Peg Battery connector. In this case I used a PowerSsonic 6V 12AH battery to illustrate since my other 6V's were charging.
Your posting is great, but the picture looks off because I am confused as to why the breaker on the Peg is originally on the Negative connector? Given that everyone says to add a fuse to the positive side, it seems a little off that the breaker is on the negative side. It's probably because I know nothing when it comes to amps and where a breaker should is placed.
In your next photo, you have added the inline fuse to the typical location. So nothing to worry about.
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Your posting is great, but the picture looks off because I am confused as to why the breaker on the Peg is originally on the Negative connector? Given that everyone says to add a fuse to the positive side, it seems a little off that the breaker is on the negative side. It's probably because I know nothing when it comes to amps and where a breaker should is placed.
In your next photo, you have added the inline fuse to the typical location. So nothing to worry about.
All Peg Perego Products have the breaker on the Negative side. I didn't bother moving it at that point in the first photo. It really doesn't matter as long as it's within 4 inches of the battery.
quote:Gotta love the lil ones when they say such cute things. Memphis always says "Okay, we got enough jeeps for the week, mom. That's enough!"
That's so funny because my son jack does the same thing, shaking his finger and looking at me "OK DAD, that's enough for this week. No more powerwheelin!" powerwheelin is what we call trash night pw picking I usually get him a choc. shake and he'll fall asleep in 30 mins.....game on .
He's actually pretty good at spotting them. I've had to turn around a few times cause he is insisting "Dad turn around, there is one right there!" and sure enough, there's one under the pile that i didnt see.
3-Gaucho's 18v Gaucho-Silver 18v (wip) Driveway Racer X5 6x4x4 Gator - WIP Yamaha Raptor 660r 18v Eliminator 19t, 12v wip Lifted Beach Rescue Jeep X Machine - 21t 18v wip JD Power Pull Dial Corvette Super BigFoot x 2 Barbie Vette
Your posting is great, but the picture looks off because I am confused as to why the breaker on the Peg is originally on the Negative connector? Given that everyone says to add a fuse to the positive side, it seems a little off that the breaker is on the negative side. It's probably because I know nothing when it comes to amps and where a breaker should is placed.
In your next photo, you have added the inline fuse to the typical location. So nothing to worry about.
All Peg Perego Products have the breaker on the Negative side. I didn't bother moving it at that point in the first photo. It really doesn't matter as long as it's within 4 inches of the battery.
Man, seems like everytime I think I know something, there turns out to be a different way or an exception. I always learn something from your posts though gseric69! Even if it contradicts what I already 'know'.
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Tonight I tried to pop off the side. I ended up busting it off, with the knob still in the side. Maybe it was too cold?
How did you get it off without busting the plastic?
I gave it some gentle force. I only got the one side off, the other side felt like it was going to break, so I left it alone. I think I do remember someone saying one some of the newer batteries they were made a little different so they couldn't be opened like that.
Even though it has broken it can be fixed. On the outside strip bore the hole the same size as the inside plate hole and the handle hole. Find you a automotive push cap the right size then you have fixed the broken tab problem.
Even though it has broken it can be fixed. On the outside strip bore the hole the same size as the inside plate hole and the handle hole. Find you a automotive push cap the right size then you have fixed the broken tab problem.
Thanks for the help. (Not meaning to hijack the thread.)
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I'm a newbie and just bumping all these of projects since I'm starting on 2 this week I never knew peg perego existed for power wheels. Thought they make strollers-tells you how much of a newbie I am
These things are so detailed
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I actually have some time today, so here goes. I've burned through 3 foot pedal switches running the JD Guacho on 18V, and it's getting really annoying. I think I'm down to two spare left now, and I don't want to burn up another one. The plan is to add a relay in line and hope this solves the problem. The diagram 12vwiz drew up last year will work, and I've already got a 40amp relay on hand. This diagram was made up to keep the foot pedal at 12V in a 24V system, so just think of the 2nd 12V shown as a 6V
Maybe if I get some more time, I can combine this with the full wiring diagram.
Olivia's been really bugging me about getting this one working again, so hopefully I'll get it done before it gets too cold out.
Eric, that particular part of the drawing will work, but it was designed with no brakes. If somebody would like to have the brake feature, they will need to put a negative(with or without a resistor)to pin 87a on the relay.
This updated drawing has the brake feature added. 11.91 KB
John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho)
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its a standard battery with tabs 
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