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gseric69
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Red Lion
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Posted - 12/15/2008 :  21:31:45  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
I scored this gem tonight, all it took was a 2 hour round trip drive. I'm real excited about finally having a Peg Perego. It's not a Gaucho, but it's the same body which I love, and I love the color. I did some searching here, and didn't really find too much on these Apache's. As I understand it they have smaller gearboxes and/or motors than the Gaucho's, but I can swap in the motors and gears from a Gaucho. Is that correct? Also would the wheels from a Gaucho fit on here with any issues?
It does have a problem in the wiring somewhere. I'm going to look into it when I'm done the Sun Jammer, I don't want to get ahead of myself with too many projects going on at once.
The front brush gaurd is also broken on the drivers side, so I'll be looking for a replacement as well.









I really like how Bunta's police Gaucho turned out, so that's giving me something to shoot for with this one.

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)

Edited by - gseric69 on 09/19/2009 20:26:33

wheres
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Cary
NC
USA



475 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2008 :  00:11:38  Show Profile  Send wheres a Yahoo! Message
oh man VERY NICE find - don't paint that thing, that's one of the nicest looking peg jeeps I've ever seen! :)

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Travvy
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Tillsonburg
Ontario
Canada

281 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2008 :  05:33:49  Show Profile
Great find.... kids will love that!

Those little motors can do that?
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gseric69
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Posted - 12/16/2008 :  09:14:39  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by wheres

oh man VERY NICE find - don't paint that thing, that's one of the nicest looking peg jeeps I've ever seen! :)


Don't worry, the only part I might consider painting is the grille to make it Chrome.
One of the rear tail lights is busted out so I was searching the Kidswheels sites for replacement and man they have everything. I felt like a kid in a candy shop! I'm making lists of all the stuff I'd love to get for this thing.

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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greatdane
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Northwest
IN
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737 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2008 :  11:29:39  Show Profile
Congrats-that's a nice find and in good shape for being about 10 years old.

I would vote for no paint also, including the girll. You will be forever chasing the scratches and flaking paint (if your kids are like mine) from minor collisions.

Ours broke there on the front bumber also...some small metal brackets and you will be back in business. I cut my brackets out of copper plumbing strap and it held up well.

Also, do not lift it by the roll bar---that too can break.



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gseric69
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Red Lion
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Posted - 03/04/2009 :  10:33:31  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
Now that the Sun Jammer is done until the weather warms up, it's time to get to work on the Apache. I know there is a problem with with wiring somewhere, I just need to locate it. I have a spare harness to use from an older Silver Gaucho (Thanks Wheres), so I may just go ahead and plug that in to see what happens. Most likely this will get all new wiring to keep up with 18V.

As for the plans, this one will be pretty basic I think. I picked up a set of new Gaucho gearboxes and motors to replace the smaller ones the Apache came with and as I said bumping it up to 18V.
Wheres also sent me a set of shocks from a Gaucho, so this one will have a wokring rear suspension now, and lastly I plan to make all the lights on this one working.
Maybe down the line it will eventually get variable speed throttle and seperate brake a la Grant.

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)

Edited by - gseric69 on 03/04/2009 13:12:58
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oaksap
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oakland
ca
USA



157 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2009 :  14:36:07  Show Profile
nice find. i'm still looking for our first peg but there arent too many deals on them out this way. the seperate brake is a really cool mod(just put one on the lambo), i had to stare at the diagram for a while before for i got it. but once it made sense it was pretty simple.

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gseric69
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Red Lion
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Posted - 03/21/2009 :  19:04:21  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
Well, plans have changed on this one. It will now be getting the 24V Super Power motors and gearboxes, so along with that it will be getting a variable speed (hall effect) throttle and seperate brake pedal. Now I have to see if I want to go with a 36V controller or a 24V controller.
I would also like to add a real braking system to it since simply cutting the power to the motors on 24 or 36V doesn't seem like a good way to stop it.

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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sdubb
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1661 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2009 :  19:33:32  Show Profile
COOL! Cant wait to see what those new motors and gearboxes do with that jeep. GOOD LUCK!

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gseric69
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Red Lion
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Posted - 03/22/2009 :  07:14:52  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
Been looking through the TNC Scooters site for a while, and I think this is the controller I will use. It looks like it has the capacity to handle enough current to the super power motors for 36V high and 18V low.
http://www.tncscooters.com/CT-660B9.php

I'll probably end up getting a few other things as well such as a Charging recepticle to place in the gas cap, real keyed ignition, and a 36V charger.

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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2fast
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Covina
California
USA



316 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2009 :  14:59:40  Show Profile
Hey gseric69, you know i bought that controller for my sons SPJEEP and it didn't work to good. The throttle wouldn't stop not even with the cut off brake applied. In the other forum one person had the same problem with that controller. Grant has tried the same model controller and said he has had no issues with it. Just thought i would let you know since tnc wasn't able to take back the controller. BTW I'm using a 36v Razor controller rated for 650w you can find real cheep on eBay i got mine for 20$ shipped and its very easy to install a key switch, its the same controller im using for the Razor quad.

Hope this helps

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Grant
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Brisbane
Queensland
Australia



1820 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2009 :  03:06:50  Show Profile  Visit Grant's Homepage
I have used that controller before with success, it allows for quite high performance. The Gaucho SP motors put out 300Watts each @24volt (600Watts combined) so will put out a lot more when running 36volts.

As for the brake failure I have setup the brake pedal to break the circuit between the controller and motor instead of using the brake feature on the controller. This allows the use of electric braking but also means that the vehicle will still stop in the event of a controller failure.




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gseric69
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Red Lion
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USA



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Posted - 03/23/2009 :  05:42:38  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
Thanks Grant. Have you posted the wiring for that setup in one of your previous wiring diagrams?

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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Grant
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Brisbane
Queensland
Australia



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Posted - 03/23/2009 :  06:53:06  Show Profile  Visit Grant's Homepage
Below is a generic variable throttle circuit diagram that should help



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http://www.youtube.com/GauchoDrift
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gseric69
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Red Lion
PA
USA



6315 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2009 :  07:50:44  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
Fantastic! Thanks again Grant.

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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gseric69
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Red Lion
PA
USA



6315 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2009 :  11:13:51  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
The Super Power Motors arrived today, and they are ENORMOUS! They weigh about 6 lbs each. Here are some shots side by side with a Gaucho Grande Gearbox and Motor and Power Wheels #7 Gearbox and Motor.
I've seen the pictures before, but to feel them in hand is something else. The size of them is staggering.




36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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CJB
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Lino Lakes
MN
USA



1589 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2009 :  11:36:51  Show Profile  Visit CJB's Homepage
I want one. er... two.

12V Lil Jeep; 24v Race Car Project (abandoned); Red Wrangler (WIP);18v Police Silverado
Polaris 2X ; Polaris 700; Xtreme Machine ; 12v Super 6 Firerock
Gaucho Grande; Tinkerbell Ninja; 12v S6 Trail Rider; Brute Force 24v
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gseric69
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Red Lion
PA
USA



6315 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2009 :  14:14:21  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
I just placed my order with TNC Scooters for a 36V Controller and hall effect foot pedal. Can't wait to get them!

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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milkman22
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Mesa
AZ
USA



238 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2009 :  15:54:55  Show Profile
I would love any gaucho!!!!!!!!.....LOL what did the controller and pedal run ya???

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gseric69
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Red Lion
PA
USA



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Posted - 04/04/2009 :  16:43:42  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
The pedal was 12 and the controller was 32. I didn't bother getting one with reverse since I'll be wiring that into the shifter.

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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cfanto
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Tracy
CA
USA



406 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2009 :  22:25:18  Show Profile  Visit cfanto's Homepage  Send cfanto a Yahoo! Message
I'm excited to see the outcome of your build!

Looking at GRANT's diagram, it really makes it look very simple since most of the original wiring doesn't even have be touched.

Curious to see how the (tall) variable throttle pedal will fit & look once it's mounted.


PowerWheels - Jeep Wrangler (74440) - Red Wrangler - unibody Jeep w/ 18V, #4 gearbox retrofit
PowerWheels - Dune Squad (74570) - Yellow Jeep - metal-framed Jeep w/ 18V, LED lights, #7 gearboxes, brake pedal
PowerWheels - Wrangler 98 (78490) - Army Jeep - unibody Jeep w/ 12V, OD painted, brake pedal, rubber tires
PowerWheels - Grey/Pace Exclusive (86270) - metal-framed Jeep - currently stock
Peg Perego - Gaucho Grande (HP252) - 70's-style Toyota Landcruiser FJ40 - 18V, LED lighting, brake pedal, front & rear traction-aids
PowerWheels - X-Treme Machine (74790) - painted, 18V w/ 24V NOS, 19T #7 gearbox, brake pedal, front traction-aids
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gseric69
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Posted - 04/09/2009 :  14:54:36  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
Got my stuff from TNC today. That hall effect throttle does have a pretty tough spring in it, so I'll take Grant's advice and put a softer one in for the little feet.
I also goofed and ordered the wrong controller. I must have picked the 500W controller instead of the 1000W one, DOH!!!!
So I reordered the correct one, and contacted TNC to see if they'll take it back. If not, it'll go on EBAY.

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)

Edited by - gseric69 on 11/20/2009 20:36:17
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colinandmylesmom
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USA



2351 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2009 :  01:59:14  Show Profile
Can't wait to see this with 24V power on it. Those gears/motors are enormous, I just got a spare set from Perego (under my 1 year warranty ) for free, doubt I'll ever need them, but free is always good!

I love these Apache's for some reason, I think I'd even trade my Yellow Gaucho for one!




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gseric69
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Red Lion
PA
USA



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Posted - 04/28/2009 :  16:25:28  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
It's finally time to start working on this bad boy. I think I have just about everything I need now, they only thing left I'm trying to decide on is the wheels. I like the look of the Apache Wheels, but they are small, relatively speaking, since they are 14", compared to the larger Grande and Super Power Wheels. I really like the look of the Grande Wheels, and was thinking of getting them with Chrome Hub Caps, since this one will have a lot of chrome on it when it's done, but it would take some fabricating to get them attached to the Super Power Wheel drivers. The other option is to get a set of Super power wheels. I don't really like the look of them as much, but the foam tread they have appeals to me, and I could always paint the hub caps with Chrome paint.
So, what are some thoughts from the rest of you on this?

On a side note, got the disc brake set up ready to bolt on now. Here's a couple shots of it.




36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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KrazyJuice
Expert Modder

Toronto
Ontario
Canada



617 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2009 :  21:30:58  Show Profile
Gseric,

I was talking to a local PP dealer in my area.. she mentioned that they came out with rubberized version but I'm not able to find one on-line.. she also sells used (off their demo rides). If you decide to go that SP wheels route, let me know and I can inquire more for you.

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mjmbrown
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West Richland
WA
USA



380 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2009 :  00:21:34  Show Profile
brakes look sweeeet..man i cant wait to see the chaos in 24v.....man i am excited

"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough."
- Mario Andretti.

Current Fleet:
Gaucho 4.0
Gator-painted and bedliner
Kawasaki SuperShock
Super6 Blue Thunder
"RC" ToyStory Eliminator
(in progress)
Dora-single seat...soon to be a gift
Barbie--metal frame (rough)
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gseric69
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Red Lion
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Posted - 05/03/2009 :  12:47:48  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
I starting tearing the Apache down today. Man these things are built tough. I'm really impressed with the quality of it, even for this lower end model.
Unfortunately the two Apache stickers on either side are pretty bad off, so I might just end up taking them off. I really wanted to try and preserive as many of the stickers on this one as possible since I don't see where any new ones are available.

Here is the current state of it. I had to take a break to get the kids up from their naps, so maybe I'll get back to work on it tonight.


36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)

Edited by - gseric69 on 05/05/2009 17:03:35
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sdubb
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1661 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2009 :  15:11:30  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by gseric69

I starting tearing the Apache down today. Man these things are built tough. I'm really impressed with the quality of it, even for this lower end model.


Yeah I know, I almost knocked myself out getting the rack and pinon steering out for you on the one I found.

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gseric69
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Posted - 05/05/2009 :  17:02:10  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
I finished tearing it down today. Boy was it dirty. The original rear pan was actually cracked at one of the points were the poll goes through. I don't think it's salvagable.
Unfortunately my fears on the stickers were true. They were just so brittle that even the slightest touch cracked them and they fell right off. I've saved what I can in the hopes that maybe I can send them to Smoka to have some repro's made.

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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Posted - 05/06/2009 :  10:45:59  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
I picked up a couple of these LED lights. They were pretty inexpensive and have a couple of settings, so now I plan to figure out a way to integrate the LEDS into the apache. The middle ring flashes between red and blue, so I'm thinking police Jeep. Maybe thats the way to go instead of trying to get repro Apache stickers.








36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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CJB
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Lino Lakes
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Posted - 05/06/2009 :  10:50:07  Show Profile  Visit CJB's Homepage
Those are kind of nifty. Are they very bright?

12V Lil Jeep; 24v Race Car Project (abandoned); Red Wrangler (WIP);18v Police Silverado
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Gaucho Grande; Tinkerbell Ninja; 12v S6 Trail Rider; Brute Force 24v
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Posted - 05/06/2009 :  10:55:24  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
Yup, very bright. Got the pair shipped for $11.98 from Meritline.

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)

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Posted - 05/22/2009 :  22:09:46  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
Things are progressing slowly with this one, but they are progressing. I got a new set of Super Power Wheels this week, and boy are they nice. I can't wait to get them on. The hubcaps were backordered, so I have to wait a little for them.
I also picked up a 36V battery fuel gage off ebay. I'll be mounting it in the dash along with a 12V fuel gage that's on the way which will monitor the accessory battery.
I threw this contraption together real quick to test it out. I'm going to buy a 36V 12AH battery to use for main power since it will fit a lot better in the Apache.

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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the gambler
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Posted - 05/23/2009 :  08:30:10  Show Profile
whats the diameter of those lights you got from Meritline?

Firerock , Gator , Bigfoot,Lil Wrangler, Army Hummer, Big Jake , Sarge Army Jeep ,JSO Police Hummer ,BACKDRAFT Monster Truck,Present Day Bigfoot

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Posted - 05/23/2009 :  09:28:41  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by the gambler

whats the diameter of those lights you got from Meritline?


They are big, nearly 5 1/2" in diameter. I plan to harvest the red/blue LEDs out of each to make a police light setup.

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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kastoo
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Posted - 05/25/2009 :  10:39:24  Show Profile  Send kastoo a Yahoo! Message
What is going to be the MPH speed of this thing when you are through?

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Posted - 05/25/2009 :  18:32:56  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by kastoo

What is going to be the MPH speed of this thing when you are through?



That's a darn good question. I really can't answer right now, but I'll be sure to post results when I have them.

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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Posted - 05/25/2009 :  18:40:36  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
Been working on the lighting today. I pulled out the red/blue LEDs from the lights I got from meritline, and put them in the headlights. I also added a single Superflux LED to the center of each one. The red/blue LEDs and Superflux LED will each operate seperate from each other so it can be run with only the center light on for headlights, or only the red/blue LEDs for police lights, or both.
I used cfanto's idea and used chrome tape as a backing to add reflectiveness.

With the lights on and police lights only


Lights off and police lights only.


Lights off with Superflux only.


Lights off close up with Superflux and police lights.

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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Posted - 05/27/2009 :  19:37:46  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
Made a little more progress today. Got the dash pretty much finished up. I'm just waiting on my key switch to add and then it'll be complete. The gauge to the right is the 36V battery indicator, and the large one on the left is the 12V indicator for the accessory battery. The blue switch will control the police lights, and the green the regular lights. I also added the charging port to the gas cap for easy charging.






36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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CJB
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Lino Lakes
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Posted - 05/28/2009 :  04:23:23  Show Profile  Visit CJB's Homepage
Sweet dash layout, Eric. Are you planning a led flasher for the police lights?

I can't wait to see this all put together.

EDIT: Nevermind. I just read they flash between red & blue.

12V Lil Jeep; 24v Race Car Project (abandoned); Red Wrangler (WIP);18v Police Silverado
Polaris 2X ; Polaris 700; Xtreme Machine ; 12v Super 6 Firerock
Gaucho Grande; Tinkerbell Ninja; 12v S6 Trail Rider; Brute Force 24v

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gseric69
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Posted - 05/28/2009 :  06:11:11  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by CJB

Sweet dash layout, Eric. Are you planning a led flasher for the police lights?




I took the easy way and just ported the setup from those Meritline lights. The LEDs flash between red and blue, so I just moved the setup with the resistors over to the headlights. The looks pretty good, like the rotating red and blue lights that were used before police cars switched to strobe lights.

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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Posted - 06/04/2009 :  20:16:54  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
I test wired everything tonight to make sure it all worked the way it should, and holy cow are those motors powerfull. I was holding one loose while I hit the gas pedal and it jerked my arm a good bit. Those things put out some monsterous torque! They are also incredibly quiet. The scooter controller works like a charm, and the variable throttle is very cool.

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)

Edited by - gseric69 on 06/04/2009 20:19:11
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kastoo
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Lagrange
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Posted - 06/04/2009 :  20:41:27  Show Profile  Send kastoo a Yahoo! Message
variable? Like in works like a car gas peddle? If so, cool!

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gseric69
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Posted - 06/04/2009 :  20:57:47  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by kastoo

variable? Like in works like a car gas peddle? If so, cool!


Yup, just like that. The more you press on it, the faster you go.

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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mjmbrown
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West Richland
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Posted - 06/04/2009 :  21:10:56  Show Profile
man im excited too, geez hurry up...


"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough."
- Mario Andretti.

Current Fleet:
Gaucho 4.0
Gator-painted and bedliner
Kawasaki SuperShock
Super6 Blue Thunder
"RC" ToyStory Eliminator
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Dora-single seat...soon to be a gift
Barbie--metal frame (rough)
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KrazyJuice
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Toronto
Ontario
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Posted - 06/04/2009 :  22:57:01  Show Profile
hurry up already and show us the vids.

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Posted - 06/05/2009 :  09:57:35  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
Ok, here's a vid. I took this last week when I was testing out the light setup for the headlights. The red and blue colors didn't show up too well though. I was going to go take a video of the motor in action, but the battery in my camera died, so as soon as it's charged up I'll get that one and add it.


36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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Posted - 06/05/2009 :  14:23:52  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
Here's the video you probably wanted to see. The Super Power Gaucho Motors running through the 36V CT30259 Controller with a Hall Effect throttle.



I'm going to try and adapt the Super Power Gaucho accelerator to work with the scooter controller. Hopefully it will work, it would be simpler for me to install that with the brake pedal I'll be using.

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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treebeme
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Posted - 06/05/2009 :  14:28:34  Show Profile
Damn, I expected a motor that big at 36v to torque over, smash the table in half and then run down the street scaring women and children. What a letdown.

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Screamin Demon (600 watt scooter motor, 36v scooter controller)
Red Harley (trike, 24v scooter controller, 13t MFJ gearboxes/motors)
KFX Quad (24v scooter controller, MFJ 12t gearboxes/motors)
Fire Rescue Jeep (24v scooter controller, 15t #7 gearboxes/motors)
Franken(berry)beast (24v scooter controller, 2-250Watt Scooter motors)
Grave Digger (21T gearboxes)
Super Shock
Razor MX-350 Motorcycle

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Jeep Wrangler (on hold)
Barbie Cruzin Tunes Jeep (24v scooter controller)
TCV Indy Racer (24v scooter controller)
Gator (on hold)
Silverado Dragster (on hold)
Apache (on hold)
Metal big wheel (24v scooter controller)
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Posted - 06/05/2009 :  14:39:14  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by treebeme

Damn, I expected a motor that big at 36v to torque over, smash the table in half and then run down the street scaring women and children. What a letdown.



I built my table extra strong in case I ever decided to put a 36V big motor on it

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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mjmbrown
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West Richland
WA
USA



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Posted - 06/05/2009 :  15:04:52  Show Profile
wow you can really hear them ramping up in rpms.....are the gear boxes dry? they sound noisy....i spy those sweet super power tires in the back too....that is going to be the sickest apache ever. i think you should paint it something CRAZY!!!!

"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough."
- Mario Andretti.

Current Fleet:
Gaucho 4.0
Gator-painted and bedliner
Kawasaki SuperShock
Super6 Blue Thunder
"RC" ToyStory Eliminator
(in progress)
Dora-single seat...soon to be a gift
Barbie--metal frame (rough)
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