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ebusby
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okinawa
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Posted - 08/28/2006 :  01:58:39  Show Profile
i came across a used weedeater with a broken shaft that a guy gave me? would this work and what all would have to be done? how would the torque be? how about top speed?

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greatdane
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Posted - 08/28/2006 :  06:48:22  Show Profile
That is the urban legend-taking a 2 stroke motor and putting it in a PW....I have heard about it but never seen a video or pic to see it done. I would think unless is was a stihl with a large clutch, or geared down very low, the clutch would slip or torque would be terrible-

My guess is you would need to have two mated to a split axle or differential-or leave the stock setup and go with 2 gear drives-

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chopper
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Posted - 08/28/2006 :  07:03:20  Show Profile  Visit chopper's Homepage  Click to see chopper's MSN Messenger address
Yeah, greatdane is right.....torque would probably be non existant. You'd pretty much have to have some sort of gearbox for it. A lawnmower engine would be much better suited, but you'd still have to have some sort of gearing mechanism.
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sporty982000
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Posted - 08/28/2006 :  07:22:05  Show Profile  Visit sporty982000's Homepage
It has been done, It was posted on another forum.

Using a weed eater engine and chain, sprocket.


No myth.


How long it lasted I do not know ! It was a 32cc weed eater engine.

you said 4 stroke weed eater, I dont think that has done, didnt catch that right away.m I dont think a 4stroke weed eater has been done.

Sporty

Edited by - sporty982000 on 08/28/2006 07:35:47
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TiddlerRacer
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Adrian
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Posted - 08/28/2006 :  07:46:14  Show Profile
It's over on ryan Hull's forum. If I can find it I will post a link. You may want to search this forum, I've posted the link over here a couple times before.

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jeffescortlx
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MN
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Posted - 08/28/2006 :  10:15:19  Show Profile
When I was a kid, I put a 2 cycle "snow pup" engine on the back of my huffy bike. I just mounted it so the out side drum of the cyntrifical clutch was touching the rubber of the wheel. The gearing came out right, the small diameter of the cyntrifical clutch driving the larger wheel was just right. It was fast, and had plenty of power for me. I'm sure a smaller size motor could move a 50lb kid in a powerwheel just fine.
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greatdane
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Posted - 08/28/2006 :  18:46:08  Show Profile
Ok -so the existance is debateable. I am still willing to pay to see the thing in action, at least 5 bucks. Are you sure that wasn't a non working prototype for the auto show? just kidding. As I read the post closer it does say 4 stroke, so maybe it's a big weed whip-

Now I'm on a search for the post at Ryan's.

I still think any regular weed whip motor with the simple clutches that wear out too fast when I remove the guard to get some significant string out would be to whimpy for long term use-long story short-do a bunch of work just to engineer another weak spot(knock on wood, all gearboxes for all machines intact at this moment)
also-I thought most of the motors didn't have full crank bearings or something( basically non fixable).
but I may be wrong
Now if anyone want's to donate a 4.5 suzuki 2 stroke motor out of an old toro ccr2000 snow blower, lets get started-
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ebusby
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okinawa
Japan

158 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2006 :  03:07:08  Show Profile
ok this is what i have found out. i went out looking around today. i found this awesome little chinese 4 wheeler. it is a weedeater motor (not sure if it is 2 or 4 stroke) will find out later. due to the language barrier here i will have to take along a friend with better language skills. i do have pics of these little things though (will post when i get off work). it is about $350 and will run about 30MPH and be govern down to about 10MPH. i am in the process of convincing my wife to let me get it now. she is unsure that a 3 year old, who is a professional PW driver, will be able to handle this. but in any sense tom. i am going to look it over and find out everything about it. so i will know what all i need to start this project of mine. wish me luck!

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TiddlerRacer
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Adrian
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Posted - 08/29/2006 :  13:58:53  Show Profile
http://www.ryanhull.com/forums2/viewtopic.php?p=354&highlight=#354

Look for a post by "powerwheelsdad" (I think) towards the bottom of the page. He has a link to a yahoo page that used to have some pictures, I'm not sure if the link still works or not.

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sporty982000
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Posted - 08/29/2006 :  14:28:23  Show Profile  Visit sporty982000's Homepage
I used a two cycle weed eater and made a homemade gas powered scooter about 5 or 6 years ago.

Still runs.

Mine had a built in gear reduction though, I did the whole thing for under a $100.

http://scooters.tziworld.com/


They are using weed eater engines is alot of stuff these days, they are the better Zenoah engines, with piston rings and good bearings in them.

A non piston ring weed eater, will not last long. But the other will.

This is doable and realistic. All though I would not do one with out 32 cc or more and the gearing would have to be right.

But my homebuilt jod does better than some of those $300 gas scooter, faster, with 200 pounds, Im hitting around 27 miles per hour.


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greatdane
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Posted - 08/29/2006 :  16:10:21  Show Profile
well, i see it, but still wonder if it worked cause there's no pic of it in action ( it looks like that is a solid axle unless the non-drive side had the differential in it-
can you see I'm in denial...

I would like to know how it drove, what about brakes, and reverse? What is that other gear and belt in the drive?

Credit to johnkghormley-The legend-I would try to contact him for info but don't want to sign up for yahoo messanger-someone invite him here-

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/johnkghormley/album?.dir=/c0c2&.src=ph





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sporty982000
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Posted - 08/29/2006 :  16:35:25  Show Profile  Visit sporty982000's Homepage
I recall him talking about having some clutch problems with it and rpm not high enough.

And I gave him some suggestions on how to correct that, but I dont recall much after that.

But there is another that has done it, you'll have to do a search on yahoo for it.


here is a link for a fisher price, new item, gas powered with detailed info-
http://cgi.ebay.com/HOT-WHEELS-GAS-POWERED-GO-KART-CART-MATTEL-NEW_W0QQitemZ200021342071QQihZ010QQcategoryZ64656QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Sporty

Edited by - sporty982000 on 08/29/2006 16:39:22
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sporty982000
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Posted - 08/29/2006 :  17:42:28  Show Profile  Visit sporty982000's Homepage
here is a picture of the motor from the above link.


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ebusby
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okinawa
Japan

158 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2006 :  22:15:36  Show Profile
here are the pics of those little 4 wheelers i was talking about. these things are the size of a pocket bike and will run roughly 30MPH. looks like the next step, since it seems next to impossible to get this out of a PW with the same engine. not sure of all the specs yet, but i am going this afternoon to talk to him again. we shall see waht is to come. what do you guys think is it worth $350?

racing version

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with all the plastic version

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these things come in any color you want also!

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sporty982000
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illinois
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Posted - 08/29/2006 :  22:51:20  Show Profile  Visit sporty982000's Homepage
I think its worth around $350, no more.


If they come from china, then the cost is pretty low.


Make sure to ask alot of questions.

Who the maker is ! This is important,

Alot of the MFGs of stuff like this, is sub contract work over there in china, meaning the garage opens up for a week and makes stuff and then thats the end of it.

And someone else might make the parts, for cheaper.

I found this out, when trying to find parts for a scooter I was putting together.

Make sure you find out about the warranty and so forth.

the oil mixture is very important for these, use good oil, not pennzoil or non brand.

Have extra plugs, as if the oil is mixed wrong, then you will foul plugs easily.

Ask, if that is a piston ring engine, if not, hard use will reduce the motor to low compression in a matter of weeks.


But since it is a local place, thats a plus !

Sporty
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ebusby
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okinawa
Japan

158 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2006 :  23:09:49  Show Profile
thanks for the advice i am headed up there this afternoon and will ask alot of questions to include these you mention. the was i see it if i can find out about the motor then the rest is pretty basic. so if the motor goes out i can always replace it with a more reliable one! the way i was thinking is the frame and gear setup is worth the money and i will see what all i can find out. we will see!

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sporty982000
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illinois
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Posted - 08/29/2006 :  23:24:46  Show Profile  Visit sporty982000's Homepage
no problem, I am pretty good and know a decent amount of info on weed eater type engine.

I have worked on over a dozen of them.

I more recently worked on a gas powered scooter for a guy, the carb was messed up and a fouled plug.


I will pass on the best free info I can, when not in use, make sure no gas/oil is in the carb.

meaning if not in use over 3 or 4 weeks time.

inside the carb is a small mesh filter, after about a year, this thing clogs up and needs replaced.

Alot of the newer carbs, throttle linkage has plastic, it bends or breaks easy and can cause the linkage to get out of whack on the throttle.

SO make sure to keep the wd-40 handy and lube the inner cables every so often and new cables stretch out after a few weeks.

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ebusby
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okinawa
Japan

158 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2006 :  05:06:24  Show Profile
wow! so alot more to consider can just your everyday weedeater problems. good to know and with all this knowledge to be learned makes it all the more interesting to do this project to see how it actually will work out. i am going to start to tear into the weedeater tomorrow and see what it all has to offer. what would be a really awesome idea would be to figure out a way to install something like a set of mountain bike sprockets. to were you could change up your gearing without tearing into it everytime. think it could be done or am i just dreaming?

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sporty982000
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illinois
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Posted - 08/30/2006 :  10:16:58  Show Profile  Visit sporty982000's Homepage
Sure,

you could maybe find what they call 1/2 sprockets or give a go at making them, but that might be what I would consider a difficult mod.

They have those sporckets for go-karts, I have two of them, but they are the thicker sprocket.

just two bolts. I usually have to loosen the engine bolts, to get slack in the chain and then remove the two bolts on the sprocket and change it out.

Sporty
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K-man
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Paducah
KY
USA

484 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2006 :  10:42:52  Show Profile
The 4-wheeler you are looking at is NOT really suited for small kids. It is based on the pocket rockets, which are way too fast, and since it is a 2-stroke it doesn't make good power until it gets going. Now if you are getting it for you it is another story. My experience with the chinese 2-stroke stuff is that it is quite reliable if you can turn a few wrenches. The 47cc engines usually have reed valves making them more suitable to perf. upgrades. The 49cc engines aren't bad though. These are made by the same people with the same components as the Road Rat I purchased a while back. That little cart would move, but the only good thing on it was the engine, the rest was very poorly welded and put together.

When you put an expansion chamber on there, it roughly doubles the power, no kidding. It will easily pull an adult, they are usually geared for about 20mph, if it was actually geared for 30mph it would have a very tough time getting going.

On the tanaka powerkarts I had, the 33cc would slide the backend all day long with a top speed of about 20-24? But that is after I installed an expansion chamber to wake up the 2-stroke. It would easily hang with a stock 47cc tanaka, but when you put a pipe on the 47cc engine, it turned into a tire shredder, more power than anyone could believe out of that little weed wacker motor! Clutches on the good engines (tanka or zenoah) lasted a long long time, no trouble there. Steering on these little carts (made for adults) was accomplished with the throttle!
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TiddlerRacer
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Adrian
MI
USA



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Posted - 08/30/2006 :  10:53:42  Show Profile
Those quads look cool, but the biggest thing I would be worried about is the availability of replacement parts. If the quad breaks and you can't get parts for it, then it isn't worth squat. If parts are readily available then I think $350 is reasonable for what you are getting (from what I can see in the pictures).

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sporty982000
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illinois
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Posted - 08/30/2006 :  11:22:41  Show Profile  Visit sporty982000's Homepage
For the price it is a good value.

There our ways to lower the speed for a younger rider.

With sprockets, carb settings and throttle limit.

Although, surely this is not for everyone, Depending on the rider and the age of the rider.

I do feel at some point, its great to see toys, vehicles that the child will be likely riding at some point.

Sooner or later, they will out grow the power wheel.

This website, provides so much variety and opportunity for modding a power wheel.

It may be a new section could be welcomed for those who have been a great help to the website, but there child is now on his way out of the power wheels.

Buy having a area, to go into new and future mods on different vehicles, could provide information and insight to what you may want to do in the future.

It also is plus as it helps ensure the modder that is no longer doing modding of a power wheel, would be more inclined to still read and post and help out others. Due to having a section that he is interested in and now posting and working,building,modding on.

Just a thought.

Sporty
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K-man
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Paducah
KY
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Posted - 08/30/2006 :  11:49:33  Show Profile
#1 Parts for these quads: the only parts that you would need would be drivetrain related, of which they are cheap and readily available, pocket rocket sprockets, chains and engines, billions available on ebay. Even uses the same rims and tires, same plastic as the pocket dirtbikes, you get the picture.


#2 Speed: they are geared pretty much as low as it gets. With the small tires it is hard to gear these down, I believe some engines (49cc) you can put the gear reduction on but even then it is not very suitable for small kids. Even geared down it would have too much power, and trying to limit the throttle on a 2-stroke doesn't work too well. If you wanted a small kids 4-wheeler, the small 4-strokes would be a much better choice, and only cost about 50 bucks more.

Just my opinion though!
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sporty982000
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illinois
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Posted - 08/30/2006 :  12:29:49  Show Profile  Visit sporty982000's Homepage
I have ran into trying to find replacement screws that fell off during use, on electric scooters.

Not standard, and it was likely metric, but i be darn if I didnt go to three hardware stores and it was some goofy odd ball size, that no one carried.

K-man, what age range would you recommend for them ?

See I was thinking 10 year and above. My son is did and hes now riding his go-kart and that does 27 miles per hour.

But with only 3/4 of a acre, its only short runs at that speed.

I have worked on alot of weed eater type engines, chain saws, weed wackers, roto tillers.

I have worked on- Ryans, Stihl, Echo, Homelite, Weedeater, McCulloch.

Common carb, Zuma, Walbro.

Worked on about 1/2 dozen lawn mower engines, go-kart engines also.

I always found a simple limit of the throttle kept the speed down, just a tad reducement.

K-man, I agree with your point to a degree. I think the vibe I get from your post is a age thing.

I know I would not let a 5 year old right one, but if a 8 year old had the ability, I would let him try it.

My son and g/f daughter, rip the electric scooter every weekend going 17 to 22 miles per hour, 1 is 10 the other is 8, they where helmits and when they first started off, I had them wear knee and elbow pads.

The only down fall is they just are not meant for the yard, so its alot of sidewalk or street riding, thank god for not being in the ciry limits.

But aside from gas powered, x-treme scooters has a electric powered atv out now.

Sporty
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lowprofile
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Long Island
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Posted - 08/30/2006 :  20:40:46  Show Profile
An urban legend caught in action:
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/power+wheels/0/fe551cc9-6407-4f66-9e10-f8d3d763b5e4.htm

enjoy!

edited for disclaimer: if this has been posted before I apologize in advance.

Edited by - lowprofile on 08/30/2006 20:42:17
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sporty982000
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illinois
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Posted - 08/30/2006 :  21:56:45  Show Profile  Visit sporty982000's Homepage
I have scene it before, its misleading

its just going down a hill onto a ramp, no motor or anything.

the jeep

Sporty
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K-man
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Paducah
KY
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Posted - 08/31/2006 :  06:06:54  Show Profile
Sporty, yes you are correct, my reservations are based on the age thing.

10 year olds "should" do fine. These things need to be kept wide open to make any power since they make next to no torque at low rpm's. A small kid is just not going to safely be able to handle that. get a group of older kids though and it would make a nice backyard flattrack racer.

They wouldn't be too good putting around the yard though, the 4-strokes would do a lot better, and most of these have suspension.
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ebusby
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okinawa
Japan

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Posted - 08/31/2006 :  07:47:55  Show Profile
alot of good advice here. this 4 wheeler is able to be govern down (by jsut a small lever on the side of the motor)to slow it down to around 10 MPH. i didnt get to go talk to the guy about it again today. hopefully i will be able to go tomorrow. i am going to take my kid to see if he will let him ride it in the parking lot jsut to see how he will do. i mean his PW quad runs about 12 MPH, so i am thinking that he will do ok on it. granted the wife only agreed to getting this if he has a helmet, full riding gear and never leave our site. which is a fair trade. now to find riding gear to fit a kid who is 25lbs and 29 inches tall! he is a runt, but very good a decent speed. i never thought about how quick this thing would get up to speed. so i will check this issue out tomorrow. thanks for bringing it up guys! metric isnt really a big deal here, since everything is Asia is metric. wow all the tools i brought from the states were useless here. since i have been here though i have replenished my metric tools. so we are good to go on these things. please keep the ideas and info coming. i love this place!

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lowprofile
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Posted - 08/31/2006 :  17:39:59  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by sporty982000

I have scene it before, its misleading

its just going down a hill onto a ramp, no motor or anything.

the jeep

Sporty


I guess clicking on the link was too much to ask. Actually it's a gas powered PW doing an impressive burnout. Check it when you have a chance.
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sporty982000
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Posted - 08/31/2006 :  18:27:18  Show Profile  Visit sporty982000's Homepage
I went to the web site,

two videos, were there, the pink jeep and the other was fron wills power wheel site, the NOS. I had scene those two, But if there is another one I overlooked.

Sporty
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lowprofile
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Posted - 08/31/2006 :  18:34:40  Show Profile
The link should take you directly to the vid, no searching required. I just tried it again and it works for me.
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sporty982000
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Posted - 08/31/2006 :  20:58:57  Show Profile  Visit sporty982000's Homepage

I found it, it was the mustang one, a combo,

there our three videos there.

I only scene the 2nd and 3rd video, the jeep and the CARS one.

Went back again and scene the mustang and powerwheels.

It did not load up first for me for some reason.

It did look neat, Burning some rubber.

Sporty

Edited by - sporty982000 on 08/31/2006 21:06:23
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TiddlerRacer
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Adrian
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Posted - 08/31/2006 :  22:37:38  Show Profile
Here is what I want to know - with the weight bias of the PW being directly over the rear axle, and the center of gravity being so high, how didn't that thing do a wheelie and loop out? I understand he was spinning on liquid, but once he rolled out it seems like he should have pulled a wheelie.

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maxitout77
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Posted - 09/01/2006 :  04:19:44  Show Profile
it looks like it might have only been one-wheel-peel?

Big Boy Barbie Jeep :)
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jacobs_dad
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Posted - 09/01/2006 :  07:19:10  Show Profile
he could have added ballast to the front as well.
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greatdane
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Posted - 09/01/2006 :  19:22:06  Show Profile
To the comment about the urban legend in action....


well sort of. The video shows a teen on a gas motored PW-I would like to see the drive set up to for the peel, what tires, and if one or two wheel drive...reverse? Centrifugal clutch? Brake setup? Was it just a PW body set down on a metal framed go cart?

anyhow, in my eyes the legend is to have a pw run well for kids off a 2 stroke weed wacker motor, which I think to be not possible because of the whimpy clutch on the weed whips, the small cc, power band without a pipe is at full throttle-and the drive setup has to be fairly complex, for we have all read that a light PW with a solid axle and plastic tires does not turn, and one wheel drive isn't that great either. Not to say that it cannot be done, for we all saw what expert fab skills and money can do in the video of the 36 or 96 volt shifter style cart with the briggs etek motor-thats one sweet setup, but probably a grand in parts alone-

Growing up my brother had a go cart-5 hp brigs, jack shaft gear reduction, solid axle that was tough to turn if you were not going fast-
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sporty982000
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Posted - 09/01/2006 :  22:58:25  Show Profile  Visit sporty982000's Homepage
I am wondering if they had a bigger engine, or what the set up was myself. Seemed like a heavy rider and alot of torg for a weed eater engine.

The seat appeared to be raised up, so It would be nice to see what was under the seat.

Now, I think a weed eater engine will work, but with a gear reduction, like the one on my home built gas scooter.

that thing, does burn outs and goes right up hills with me 200 pounds.

Hills that are 38 degrees.


But without the proper gear set up, it would be a dog for hills or grass.

My engine was actually off a ice auger that had a gear reduction on it. I got it off e-bay for $20 dollars total.

Sporty
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TiddlerRacer
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Posted - 09/02/2006 :  07:47:35  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by sporty982000

I am wondering if they had a bigger engine, or what the set up was myself. Seemed like a heavy rider and alot of torg for a weed eater engine.




Just listening to it you can tell it's not a weed eater engine. It actually sounded a lot like a modified Briggs and Stratton engine.

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ebusby
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okinawa
Japan

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Posted - 09/03/2006 :  08:05:57  Show Profile
sporty,
your sccoter will do burn outs? i am determined to build this PW with a weedeater motor. i think i might do it with his Eliminator. he doesnt ride it much and i was thinking about selling it. but this would be perfect for it. he sets low in it and it is low to the ground and wider than the rest or his PW. might have to take leave from work, but i will get it done. i would like any info you can send me about how you built yours. as far as gearing and such. thanks in advance.
i also posted a reply on the website with the PW burnout. i want to see if he will give up his secret to his sleeper PW.

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ebusby
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okinawa
Japan

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Posted - 09/07/2006 :  05:35:36  Show Profile
well went today and took the kid too look at the 4 wheeler. he fit on it great and came off of it like lightning when we started it. he wouldnt go near it. so i guess that idea is out for a while. however i am looking at running his PW quad at 18V. however i only have 12V batteries and 12V chargers. so now to buy new batteries and chargers? or resort back to 24Vs?

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greatdane
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Northwest
IN
USA

737 Posts

Posted - 09/07/2006 :  17:39:08  Show Profile
Ebusby-

don't feel so bad

add my (soon to be 4 and 2)kids to the scared of the ring a ding 2 stroke motor sound too-funny, they are not scared of the weed wacker, blower, or the twin kawasaki motor on the mower, just of the 2 stroke noise under them-
Have you looked at the mini moto atv? seems like it might do the job for possibly close to the same price-
I was killing time at TRU and saw the atv's and go carts on clearance for $199, usually 499-so I grab three tags ( 2 go carts and 1 atv) and proceed with a smile to checkout (the whole time I'm thinking these may be too fast at max 15 mph-they say 10 years old, how to slow them down, no more stripped gears, holy cow it's Christmas in September-even better, I can ride with them.....-after waiting 15 minutes which seemed like forever, they said they didn't have the three in stock, it was a new employee error, and that they were discontinued by mini moto to be replaced in a few months by a razor product-buzz killer. the ones in back had to be sent back to the mfg, were floor displays and hacked up.
oh well, maybe next time.
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TiddlerRacer
Senior Modder

Adrian
MI
USA



1849 Posts

Posted - 09/07/2006 :  18:11:52  Show Profile
Bummer on the toys Greatdane. I would have been pretty bummed out myself.

Re: motor noise - Since my wife and I race MX both children were exposed to the sound of the ring-a-dings in the womb. No - she didn't race pregnant <LOL> but attending races with me she said both of them would start doing flips and kicks when the bikes started up.

I can start and ride our two strokes without issue. Both children never batted an eye their whole lives. I can remember my son sleeping in the stroller at 4 months when we were pitted right next to the track, and my daughter doing the same at 6 months. Here is the funny part - a couple weeks ago we were at my parents house, and my dad started up the quad (stock Honda 4 stroke - very quiet). My daughter was scared senseless! I could not believe it - it seems like it should be the other way around.

****Testing the limits of Fisher Price engineering on a daily basis.****

Edited by - TiddlerRacer on 09/07/2006 18:13:19
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maxitout77
New Member




34 Posts

Posted - 09/07/2006 :  22:09:17  Show Profile
on that note, i just purchased one of those pocket dirt bikes on ebay; thought ya'll might enjoy a review seeing as it may be the next step for growing kids (or like me, the big kid in all of us).


49cc 2 stroke pocket dirt bike (yellow)

paid $267 shipped (+$100 for pocket quad) price is definitely right!

you definitely get what you pay for, but overall im impressed. it arrived with the front fender crack at nose; not a big deal (all the ebay reviews talk about fairing damage from shiping from china). assemebly was a piece of cake; handle bars and pegs.

much to my surprise, after 3 pulls it fired up and idled perfectly! i let it break in idle for a few minutes and was off. now, even with no choke, it fires first pull and idles great! disk brakes work great, and clutch feels strong.

these bikes (and quad im sure) are no joke. after playing in the lawn a bit i whipped out hard in the driveway because i underestimated the power. they will hit 30 easily, and quickly. tons of pep for such a small package.


overall im very impressed. its definitely cheaply made, but seems solid where it counts. i replaced a bunch of pins and cheap bolts with grade 8 ones for piece of mind, but besides that i feel safe (at 170lbs). replacement parts can be found cheaply online too which is a big plus.


here is the same bike i bought:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/49cc-DIRT-BIKE-SCOOTER-GAS-POCKET-ROCKET-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ100470QQihZ004QQitemZ140026127893

feel free to ask my any questions :)



Big Boy Barbie Jeep :)

Edited by - maxitout77 on 09/07/2006 22:11:57
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HDG
New Member

Bothell
WA

4 Posts

Posted - 09/08/2006 :  01:07:04  Show Profile
I have been looking into useing part number 5 at the following link http://www.toolpartsdirect.com/cgi-bin/schematic.cgi/dewalt/DW958K-2_TYPE_3/

Since the motors in these kiddie mobiles seem to be decendants of you basic drill motors. I am a contractor and have gone through a few drills in my time, so I have some experince replacing motors in power tools, there are some very powerful and fast power tool motors out there to try.

If you really want to have some fun, check out these guys http://powertooldragraces.com/
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ebusby
Journeyman Modder


okinawa
Japan

158 Posts

Posted - 09/08/2006 :  02:48:02  Show Profile
greatdane, yea pretty much the same decription here. i finally got my wife convinced to get it and the only thing left was the take my son to see how he fit on it and of course to listen to it. well he fit fine, but boy when we fired it up, which starts on the first pull everytime, he took off like a rocket! man could have been alot of fun for both of us! maybe this time next year!

tiddler, whats the chance of loving the 2 strokes and scared to death of a little ole 4 stroke. guess the saying is true, you are scared of the unknown. good luck with that!

but like MAXIT said these things are built to run! the one i was looking at was a 50cc with disc brakes and suspension. i mean the welds could have been better, but nothing we couldnt do ourselves! i rode the quad around the parking lot and wow that thing is fast @ 30 MPH. my jaw dropped when the guy pulled out a pocket bike that would run nearly 60MPH! all i have to say is one day! one day my son will be on one, of course bundled up in riding gear looking like a thanksgiving turkey!!

power wheeling internationally!
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maxitout77
New Member




34 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2006 :  19:59:46  Show Profile
ebusby- i hear ya on the speed. my bike goes 30ish and that plenty fast for me on something that small. you would never catch me going 60 on a pocket crotch rocket, they are even smaller!

Big Boy Barbie Jeep :)
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ebusby
Journeyman Modder


okinawa
Japan

158 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2006 :  05:14:26  Show Profile
max,
if your pocket bike runs 30MPH with an adult, how fast will it run with a kid on it? or is 30 MPH with whomever on it?

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maxitout77
New Member




34 Posts

Posted - 09/12/2006 :  06:13:51  Show Profile
even with a kid, i dont think it will go much past 30, gearing dictates im pretty sure. acceleration would be much faster however. its even got enough tourque to weehlie with my fat ars on it.


Big Boy Barbie Jeep :)
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ebusby
Journeyman Modder


okinawa
Japan

158 Posts

Posted - 09/13/2006 :  00:29:39  Show Profile
we are going again to look at it. i think with a helmet this time. i think with him wearing a helmet it wont be so loud and he might ride it. we shall see. more to come.....

power wheeling internationally!
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maxitout77
New Member




34 Posts

Posted - 09/15/2006 :  18:15:33  Show Profile
check out the linky for a thurough review and pictures!!!

http://www.modifiedpowerwheels.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=664

Big Boy Barbie Jeep :)
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ebusby
Journeyman Modder


okinawa
Japan

158 Posts

Posted - 09/15/2006 :  20:29:54  Show Profile
sounds like it is holdiong up well. i dont think there would be much my 3 yr old could damage on it. i def believe in the bolt changover though. that is always a must with things from this part of the world.

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