These forums are archived!
Please create a new account at our new forums here: http://forum.modifiedpowerwheels.com
ModifiedPowerWheels.com powerwheels upgrades, peg-perego and others very welcome

Specializing in Peg Perego and Power Wheels Parts and Machines
Udemy Course
Home | My Files | Profile | Active Topics | Members | Search | FAQ | RSS allows you to view new posts anywhere!!
 All Forums
 Modifications by Category
 Motors/Gearing/Drivetrain
 Motors that work/ Replacement Motors
 Forum Locked  Topic Locked
 Printer Friendly
Next Page
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic
Page: of 11

jasncab
Forum Admin



Phoenix
AZ
USA

1119 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2006 :  10:05:48  Show Profile  Visit jasncab's Homepage
I have used the following motors as replacements:

http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/item/DCM-267/400/DC_MOTOR,_3-24_VDC_.html

http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/item/DCM-266/400/DC_MOTOR,_3-24_VDC_.html

I like the first one since it has a higher RPM rating. It does seem to help and the motors stand up just fine to regular use.

mhendu
New Member




6 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2006 :  11:10:15  Show Profile
Nice find, and for only $3.50. I think you could build one of these $250 torys for under $15, not counting the plastic.

Edit: The motors listed above and on some early posts in this thread are no longer avaiable. You may want to start at later posts started towards the middle of 2008 and read from there for more relevent information.

Edited by - gseric69 on 06/16/2010 13:58:20
Go to Top of Page

jasncab
Forum Admin

Phoenix
AZ
USA



1119 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2006 :  15:56:53  Show Profile  Visit jasncab's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by mhendu

Nice find, and for only $3.50. I think you could build one of these $250 torys for under $15, not counting the plastic.



Part of the reason this site exists!!!

Glad to see you having so much fun (for your child of course) ;)
Go to Top of Page

mhendu
New Member




6 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2006 :  19:41:10  Show Profile
By the way, how did you connect the gear on the motor to the new motor? I have one powerwheel where its just plastic and if you pull it off it won't stay on tight again, and the other one is metal and I can't even get it off the shaft. I think if I could figure that out, or if I could just figure out how you are suppose to attach normal gears to that type of motor I could replace the plastic gears with metal ones from a place like this http://www.sdp-si.com/eStore/CoverPg/Gears.htm
Go to Top of Page

jasncab
Forum Admin

Phoenix
AZ
USA



1119 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2006 :  19:58:43  Show Profile  Visit jasncab's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by mhendu

By the way, how did you connect the gear on the motor to the new motor? I have one powerwheel where its just plastic and if you pull it off it won't stay on tight again, and the other one is metal and I can't even get it off the shaft. I think if I could figure that out, or if I could just figure out how you are suppose to attach normal gears to that type of motor I could replace the plastic gears with metal ones from a place like this http://www.sdp-si.com/eStore/CoverPg/Gears.htm



Check out the following video:

http://www.modifiedpowerwheels.com/viewblog.aspx?blogid=100

You need to flatten the shaft with a dremel. You can get the 32 pitch gears anywhere - towerhobbies for instance.
Go to Top of Page

Zeiss Nut
New Member



USA

18 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2006 :  14:18:57  Show Profile
How about this motor ?
http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/item/DCM-265/400200/POWERFUL_18VDC_MOTOR_.html

Would it work better since it draw even more amp and seems to even more powerfull ?

Go to Top of Page

jasncab
Forum Admin

Phoenix
AZ
USA



1119 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2006 :  08:29:05  Show Profile  Visit jasncab's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Zeiss Nut

How about this motor ?
http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/item/DCM-265/400200/POWERFUL_18VDC_MOTOR_.html



I didnt like it because of the width of the shaft. Standard pinions wont fit on it.
Go to Top of Page

jonwvsu
New Member




21 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2006 :  08:36:03  Show Profile
What does the turn number mean (540 Stinger, 550 Titan) and what does my Xtreme machine have?
Go to Top of Page

Zeiss Nut
New Member



USA

18 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2006 :  09:23:32  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by jonwvsu

What does the turn number mean (540 Stinger, 550 Titan) and what does my Xtreme machine have?


280, 540, 550 , 700 and etc are the size of motor . i think it was coin by small motor maker Mabuchi
From my RC car info
maybe the following link might help
Basically for RC racing all the fancy feauture will help but for a powerwheels stick to the basic.
number of turn refer to the number of time the wires is wound around the arm inside the motor. In general more turn higher low end torque lower rpm and bit more run time. low turn number genrally mean the oposite and ussually only used by speciliazed Racing RC motor.

So just stick with basic Johnson or Mabuchi type motor designed for drill. That should work better.

http://www.rcboatmodeler.com/pdf/MEGA_MOTOR_GUIDE.pdf
http://www.rccartips.com/advanced-rc-electric-motor-tips.htm
http://www.mabuchi-motor.co.jp/en_US/technic/index.html
http://www.johnsonelectric.com/product/product_catelist.php?mktid=2&appid=72


Go to Top of Page

jonwvsu
New Member




21 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2006 :  17:11:20  Show Profile
Ok, so where do I stand now?
Go to Top of Page

Zeiss Nut
New Member



USA

18 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2006 :  21:35:53  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by jonwvsu

Ok, so where do I stand now?



The whole info on electric motor is too long and too complex to be discussed here. I have post some basic info on the number of turn etc. the rest you will be better off reading for yourself of the motor manufacture literature or the RC motor website guide.
But In my humble opinion you should go with the first two motor that is listed at the beginning of the thread as recomended by our Host. their cheap and originally designed for a cordless drill and should be pretty good for power wheel.

I my self would probably buy several of those motor the next time i order my electronic component/supplies from allectronics.
Go to Top of Page

jonwvsu
New Member




21 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2006 :  15:29:58  Show Profile
I'm sorry, I should have been more specific. I was just wondering how different my stock motors are compared to the ones you recomemend. How would I go about finding out the turn number of my motors?
Go to Top of Page

jasncab
Forum Admin

Phoenix
AZ
USA



1119 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2006 :  15:43:59  Show Profile  Visit jasncab's Homepage
Unless it is labeled with a part number etc or the turns (as some rc motors are) then you would litterally have to unwind it.

I think the standard (from my RC days) is 27 turn. But that is really old information.

550, 600, 700 are all sizes of motors. Usually the length increases, but also the width (circ) above 600. I dont believe it denotes turns.

I think all power wheels come with 550s.
Go to Top of Page

00LS1SS
New Member



Canada

8 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2006 :  08:07:29  Show Profile
Why doesnt anybody use good R/C motors? I took the C5R apart and they are both just the basic "550" motors that the most entry level electric r/c cars used to use.Same screw holes for mounting etc. You could spend a few bucks anywhere from $25-$150 and get some extremly obnoxious motors for these things if the child could control it.I have his/mine apart right now and would be installing some Trinity 12 turn motors and testing it right now if my brother wouldnt have touched the "right" wire and fried the SC.

Oh, i should have read all the posts some of you guys have mentioned it already.

C5R

Insert Image:

Edited by - 00LS1SS on 05/07/2006 08:11:03
Go to Top of Page

otoupaliks
New Member



USA

20 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2006 :  16:45:36  Show Profile  Click to see otoupaliks's MSN Messenger address  Send otoupaliks a Yahoo! Message
We tried to wathc the video but it says it is not available. Has it been taken out? Is there another way to get these instructions?


quote:
Originally posted by jasncab

quote:
Originally posted by mhendu

By the way, how did you connect the gear on the motor to the new motor? I have one powerwheel where its just plastic and if you pull it off it won't stay on tight again, and the other one is metal and I can't even get it off the shaft. I think if I could figure that out, or if I could just figure out how you are suppose to attach normal gears to that type of motor I could replace the plastic gears with metal ones from a place like this http://www.sdp-si.com/eStore/CoverPg/Gears.htm



Check out the following video:

http://www.modifiedpowerwheels.com/viewblog.aspx?blogid=100

You need to flatten the shaft with a dremel. You can get the 32 pitch gears anywhere - towerhobbies for instance.

Go to Top of Page

proph
New Member



USA

23 Posts

Posted - 06/18/2006 :  15:05:05  Show Profile
Will this motor fit?

http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/item/DCM-265/400200/POWERFUL_18VDC_MOTOR_.html
Go to Top of Page

TiddlerRacer
Senior Modder

Adrian
MI
USA



1849 Posts

Posted - 06/18/2006 :  17:47:19  Show Profile
That motor will fit #7 style gearboxes. You will have to buy some M4 screws to mount the motors and also some 4mm, 32 pitch pinion gears from www.finedesignrc.com

Testing the limits of Fisher Price engineering on a daily basis.
Go to Top of Page

proph
New Member



USA

23 Posts

Posted - 06/18/2006 :  20:18:43  Show Profile
I'm not sure which is #7 style... My son has a Kawasaki KFX and my Daughter has the new gen barbie jeep. Both use the same gear boxes and motors from what I can see.
Go to Top of Page

TiddlerRacer
Senior Modder

Adrian
MI
USA



1849 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2006 :  19:17:50  Show Profile
Yep, those are #7's! If you look where the motor screws go through, there is another set of holes offset. Those are the ones you will use to mount the 700 series motors.

Testing the limits of Fisher Price engineering on a daily basis.
Go to Top of Page

ntrikit
New Member




36 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2006 :  22:49:26  Show Profile  Visit ntrikit's Homepage  Send ntrikit a Yahoo! Message
I used a pair of those motors in my son's Jeep. Worked out just fine. Check out the thread listed as "Big Kid, Jeep, 18 Volts"...there are some videos in there of my Jeep doing wheelies and drifting. Once you go that extreme, be prepared to replace gears and gearboxes.



"There once was a man from Nantuckett...and let me tell you...some of his stories were highly exagerated."
Go to Top of Page

proph
New Member



USA

23 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2006 :  14:45:50  Show Profile
Did that increase the speed or just the torque? I was looking at the
HTI motor on robotmarketplace and that seems like a monster of a motor. Any preferences on which one would be better? Or better yet, does anyone have the specs on the stock motor?

HTI Replacement Motor
http://www.robotmarketplace.com/marketplace_motorsmisc.html

Johnson 700 Series
http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/item/DCM-265/400200/POWERFUL_18VDC_MOTOR_.html
Go to Top of Page

Jamesonsdad
Journeyman Modder

Fayetteville
Georgia
USA

342 Posts

Posted - 06/22/2006 :  09:19:52  Show Profile
I have never seen specs for the stock motors.
I can tell you though that the HTI motors will provide lots more torque than the stock ones.
Top speed on flat pavement may be a tad slower than stock, but throw in some hills or grass and the extra torque will make the Jeep faster.
I've tried the HTI motors and now have some DCM-265s on order. Once my gearbox problems are resolved I'll post which ones perform better.




See my project page:http://www.ryanhull.com/forums2/weblog.php?w=9
Go to Top of Page

TiddlerRacer
Senior Modder

Adrian
MI
USA



1849 Posts

Posted - 06/22/2006 :  11:48:21  Show Profile
On paper the HTI's and Johnson Motors should perform the same. The HTI is listed as 1260RPM per volt and the Johnson motor breaks down to roughly the same if you divide the listed RPM by the listed voltage (18V).

I have a set of 21T gearboxes with the Johnson motors ready to drop in the mod Jeep. I'm just waiting on some batteries and modding a NOS button. Once I find some extra time and get teh batteries I'll be sure to post how they perform, however Jamesonsdad's info will be more relavent since he's doing a back to back test.

I believe stock PW motors are approximately 16000 RPM on 12V. On 12V, the Johnson and HTI motors would be around 15000.

Testing the limits of Fisher Price engineering on a daily basis.
Go to Top of Page

Jamesonsdad
Journeyman Modder

Fayetteville
Georgia
USA

342 Posts

Posted - 06/23/2006 :  21:04:01  Show Profile
I Got my DCM-265 motors today. The first thing I noticed was the drive shaft diameter and lenght. It is shorter than the HTI, but no big deal. However it is also smaller diameter-4mm vs. 5mm-big deal to me since I already bored my pinions to 5mm.
Now I'll either need to buy some RC pinions or find some 19t gearboxes with the motors still on them. If I go the RC route I'll just buy the standard pinion and step up the hole to 4mm. 4-5mm pinions cost about twice that of standard ones.

In summary:

550 motors have 3mm shaft
DCM-265 has 4mm shaft
HTI 700 has 5mm shaft



See my project page:http://www.ryanhull.com/forums2/weblog.php?w=9
Go to Top of Page

TiddlerRacer
Senior Modder

Adrian
MI
USA



1849 Posts

Posted - 06/23/2006 :  21:11:21  Show Profile
Let me look around and see if I have any stock 19T pinions on motors lying around. If I do you're welcome to them.

Testing the limits of Fisher Price engineering on a daily basis.
Go to Top of Page

TiddlerRacer
Senior Modder

Adrian
MI
USA



1849 Posts

Posted - 06/26/2006 :  06:51:24  Show Profile
Sorry, bad news...no 19T pinions. If I come across any I'll let you know.

****Testing the limits of Fisher Price engineering on a daily basis.****
Go to Top of Page

SPRPRBGT
New Member

BIRDSBORO
PA
USA

6 Posts

Posted - 06/29/2006 :  04:23:49  Show Profile
will the motors listed above work in any gear box? i have the lil' wrangler right now with a burnt motor. and i want to replace both of them. (i added a motor to each rear tire) if they will work, am i correct that the first one has a higher rpm so it would be faster then the second one with more torque??
Go to Top of Page

AustinPW
New Member

Austin
Texas
USA

4 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2006 :  05:58:04  Show Profile  Visit AustinPW's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by jasncab

I have used the following motors as replacements:

http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/item/DCM-267/400/DC_MOTOR,_3-24_VDC_.html

http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/item/DCM-266/400/DC_MOTOR,_3-24_VDC_.html

I like the first one since it has a higher RPM rating. It does seem to help and the motors stand up just fine to regular use.



Be aware that All Electronics is going to charge you another $7 S&H. I don't get it since the little motors come in a little envelope. I think this is a rip off, but I didn't notice until the CC was charged.
Go to Top of Page

Jamesonsdad
Journeyman Modder

Fayetteville
Georgia
USA

342 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2006 :  06:51:36  Show Profile
Yes it's true that $7 S&H is high, but for what they charge for their motors you can't go somewhere else and get a better deal that I have found.

While on vacation I picked up a pair of 19t RC pinions and will step up the holes to 4mm.



Power Wheels, How bad have you got it?


See my project page:http://www.ryanhull.com/forums2/weblog.php?w=9
Go to Top of Page

bandit2824
New Member

Chardon
OH

11 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2006 :  12:13:37  Show Profile
Just curious if you got these Trinity motors installed and how they worked? Which ones did you install?


quote:
Originally posted by 00LS1SS

Why doesnt anybody use good R/C motors? I took the C5R apart and they are both just the basic "550" motors that the most entry level electric r/c cars used to use.Same screw holes for mounting etc. You could spend a few bucks anywhere from $25-$150 and get some extremly obnoxious motors for these things if the child could control it.I have his/mine apart right now and would be installing some Trinity 12 turn motors and testing it right now if my brother wouldnt have touched the "right" wire and fried the SC.

Oh, i should have read all the posts some of you guys have mentioned it already.

C5R

Insert Image:

Go to Top of Page

bandit2824
New Member

Chardon
OH

11 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2006 :  13:09:19  Show Profile
Where are you purchasing the M4 screws at? Are they available at any local hardware store?

I just purchased the johnson 700 series motors:
http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/item/DCM-265/400200/POWERFUL_18VDC_MOTOR_.html
along with these gears:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEX04&P=7
For a Jeep Wrangler.

Have everything ready to be mounted but Didn't pay attention that i needed different screws. Thought I would ask before I go looking.

Thanks for all the good info. Keep it coming.
Go to Top of Page

TiddlerRacer
Senior Modder

Adrian
MI
USA



1849 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2006 :  14:05:44  Show Profile
M4 screws are available at most hardware stores in the bolt section. I found a shouldered M4 bolt with a hex head that works great.

Those pinions you ordered will need to be modified to work with those motors. Those motor shafts are 4mm and the pinion holes are 1/8".

Jamesonsdad - have you tried to modify the RC pinions yet? If so, how did it work out?

****Testing the limits of Fisher Price engineering on a daily basis.****
Go to Top of Page

Jamesonsdad
Journeyman Modder

Fayetteville
Georgia
USA

342 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2006 :  14:19:52  Show Profile
SPRPRBGT sorry I didn't answer your question earlier.
Both the DCM-266 and DCM-267 are 550 motors and will fit all PW gearboxes. However it has been pointed out that both of these motors have built in "timing" that is not adjustable. This means that the motors will run at a different speed when running backwards, which is what one motor does at all times in a two gearbox setup.
The DCM-265 is a 700 series motor and will not fit your style (#3)gearbox.

The DCM-231 motor has been mentioned as a good PW replacement motor with no timing issues. Check it out here: http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/item/DCM-231/search/FAN-COOLED_6-12_VDC_MOTOR_.html

Bandit2824 I got my M4 screws at Lowes in the hardware section.



Power Wheels, How bad have you got it?


See my project page:http://www.ryanhull.com/forums2/weblog.php?w=9
Go to Top of Page

Jamesonsdad
Journeyman Modder

Fayetteville
Georgia
USA

342 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2006 :  14:35:31  Show Profile
Just finished stepping up a Robinson Racing RC Pinion to work on the DCM-265 motor. I used a #21 bit and it gave a nice tight slip fit.

The pinion was machined out on the side opposite the set screw so there isn't much 'meat' left on the center shaft on that side after stepping up the hole, but I imagine it will be plenty strong.


Power Wheels, How bad have you got it?


See my project page:http://www.ryanhull.com/forums2/weblog.php?w=9
Go to Top of Page

jaysik
New Member

Livonia
Michigan
USA

47 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2006 :  12:08:19  Show Profile
Does any one know what motors I can buy to replace the Silverado ones? I also need some help with how to actually put them on. If anyone please knows anything about the silverado I would really appreciate any help. It is the silver model pre 2000 originally a 12 volt only. If someone could just give me a model or type of motor to buy, I know all electronics has some motors, but I do not know which one to buy. Here is the link to the schewmatics for the Silverado, can someone please help mehttp://powerwheels.mendingshed.com/74310.pdf


1 Silverado
1 Barbie Jeep Wrangler
1 Super Bigfoot
1 3 Wheeler Highway Patrol
1 3 wheeler power wheel
Go to Top of Page

TiddlerRacer
Senior Modder

Adrian
MI
USA



1849 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2006 :  13:10:32  Show Profile
Order two of these and one or two as a spare:

http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/item/DCM-231/search/FAN-COOLED_6-12_VDC_MOTOR_.html

Then order two of these:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXXF62&P=7

Pull the old motors from the vehicle. Pay attention to which wire are positive and which are negative, and how they are attached to the motors. One motor (passenger side if I remember correctly) will need to be wired in reverse (negative to the red dot) to achieve reverse rotation. You will also need to get the nylon ring off the front of the old motor to attach to the new motor. This will probably involve cutting the pinions off the old motors because I do not think the rings will clear the pinions. Either that or you can try to press/punch the old ones off.

Once you have the ring, put it on the front of the new motor. Measure the depth of the side of the gearbox to the gear the pinion engages to. Set the pinion on the shaft the same depth so you have proper gear engagement. Bolt those bad boys in, wire 'em up, and look out! If you've done everything right both motors should spin in the same direction, and go forward and reverse when asked.


****Testing the limits of Fisher Price engineering on a daily basis.****
Go to Top of Page

jaysik
New Member

Livonia
Michigan
USA

47 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2006 :  15:12:17  Show Profile
Hey man thanks a hell of a lot, I was lost and did not know what parts to get. I ordered both of those and they should get here this week some time.
Would you happen to know what gear box I could use to replace the one in the 3 wheeler Highway Patrol? Here is the schematic link http://powerwheels.mendingshed.com/78570.pdf can you also help me with a new motor or motors if it is possible to do on this one?

1 Silverado(DEAD)
1 Barbie Jeep(WORKS)
1 Super Bigfoot(WORKS)
1 3 Wheeler Police(WORKS)
1 3 wheeler (DEAD)
Go to Top of Page

TiddlerRacer
Senior Modder

Adrian
MI
USA



1849 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2006 :  18:52:25  Show Profile
The schematic shows it uses a "clip" style pinion gear. DCM-231's work great in these because the clip style pinion requires a long motor shaft. That style gearbox is a #3, and they are commonly used in Bigfoots, F-150's, old Kawasaki quads, and the Cat Dump truck and top loader to name a few. Keep an eye for these at a garage sale or in the trash as your cheapest means to replace a gearbox.

One thing on that Highway Patrol - you may be able to remove the spacer on the opposite side of the axle and install another gearbox. The picture doesn't give a clear shot of what the chassis tub looks like. I just put two gearboxes on a Jeep Enforcer Jr, and pretty much all that was requuired was removal of a similar plastic spacer.

One last note on the Silverado motors: the spade connectors are held on by a dab of solder. You'll either need to clip the wire and install new connectors or just heat up the connector with a soldering iron to pull them off.

****Testing the limits of Fisher Price engineering on a daily basis.****
Go to Top of Page

jaysik
New Member

Livonia
Michigan
USA

47 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2006 :  06:08:29  Show Profile
You know your power wheels, wow thanks. I will probably just solder off those. The gear box on the hwy patrol is clicking, so I probably need to replace it. What would be more ideal, trying to replace the whole thing, or rebuilding it? If rebuilding it, what gears should I get?Here are some real life pics of it



All right, I have one last question on a power wheels problem. On my other 3 wheeler, it is dead completely. I got it off of a craigs list add. They were selling it for 5 bucks, but when I got there to p/up they gave it to me for free. Anyways, it does not do anything. I put in a new battery and checked the connections and nothing. I will attach some photos for it, this 3 wheeler I also want to add an additional gearbox and motor. What would you suggest? I know I will need to replace the existing one, but I do not know what the schematics are on this one.






I truly appreciate all of the help,

1 Silverado(DEAD)
1 Barbie Jeep(WORKS)
1 Super Bigfoot(WORKS)
1 3 Wheeler Police(WORKS)
1 3 wheeler (DEAD)
Go to Top of Page

TiddlerRacer
Senior Modder

Adrian
MI
USA



1849 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2006 :  06:37:16  Show Profile
A rebuild really isn't an option since FP does not sell gears seperately. I think you can get these gearboxes new but the price is high. I recommend being patient and looking at garage sales for an old Bigfoot, F-150, Kawasaki quad, etc., etc. That way you'll get two gearboxes, plus be able to pull the entire wiring harness use that since the accelerator pedal switch will be rated at a higher amperage. Also, if it's from a quad you can get forward and reverse plus high and low speed. Look at the Enforcer Jr. build I did using a Kawasaki quad harness and two gearboxes:

http://www.ryanhull.com/forums2/weblog.php?w=10

Adding a second gearbox will not be an issue.

As far as the three wheeler being dead, all you can really do is trace the wires out. Those harnesses are very simple so it shouldn't be a problem, just start at the battery and test voltages going towards the motors. Once you found the point of no voltage, you have found your issue.

****Testing the limits of Fisher Price engineering on a daily basis.****
Go to Top of Page

jaysik
New Member

Livonia
Michigan
USA

47 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2006 :  06:48:21  Show Profile
I will look around at some garage sales and see if I can get a quad style. That sounds a lot better than the current set up it came with. My kids would enjoy being able to go forward and reverse as well as 2 speeds. I am very greatful for all of your support info and ideas. Would the DCM-231 be the right replacement for both 3 wheelers and the bigfoot?

1 Silverado(DEAD)
1 Barbie Jeep(WORKS)
1 Super Bigfoot(WORKS)
1 3 Wheeler Police(WORKS)
1 3 wheeler (DEAD)
Go to Top of Page

TiddlerRacer
Senior Modder

Adrian
MI
USA



1849 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2006 :  19:50:10  Show Profile
Provided the Bigfoot or quad (etc.) you find uses a clip style pinion, you'll be fine. If not, you're going to have to hunt around as there isn't an aftermarket 8 tooth pinion available that will work. DCM-231's are going to give a speed boost over stock motors, if you're looking for stock speed go with DCM-104.

****Testing the limits of Fisher Price engineering on a daily basis.****

Edited by - TiddlerRacer on 07/16/2006 19:50:38
Go to Top of Page

jaysik
New Member

Livonia
Michigan
USA

47 Posts

Posted - 07/17/2006 :  02:24:20  Show Profile
I thought both 3 wheelers were the ckip style, not sure about the bigfoot. Here are the schematics to the bigfoot, can you tell if it is the clip style? http://powerwheels.mendingshed.com/78640.pdf
What is the easiest way to remove the motors from the gear boxes on all of these? I tried to remove them by turning and pulling, and could not get them to move. Here is the closest match to the one 3 wheeler I could find, http://powerwheels.mendingshed.com/76125.pdf. If you get a chance let me know what you think.

1 Silverado(DEAD)
1 Barbie Jeep(WORKS)
1 Super Bigfoot(WORKS)
1 3 Wheeler Police(WORKS)
1 3 wheeler (DEAD)
Go to Top of Page

TiddlerRacer
Senior Modder

Adrian
MI
USA



1849 Posts

Posted - 07/17/2006 :  15:12:58  Show Profile
That style of Bigfoot uses the clip style pinion.

To remove the motor, you must pull the pushnut off the wheel, remove the wheel, then remove the gearbox. There are two screws that hold the motor in. Remove the screws, then to remove the motor you'll have to look at the other side of the gearbox where the motor shaft goes in. The clip style pinion gear is the exact same dimension as the hole, so you'll have to play with it a bit to line up the gear to come out of the hole.

Once it's out, use a small flat blade screw driver to seperate the pinion gear and the clip. Install on the new motor at the same depth as it was on the old motor and you're set.

****Testing the limits of Fisher Price engineering on a daily basis.****
Go to Top of Page

bandit2824
New Member

Chardon
OH

11 Posts

Posted - 07/17/2006 :  20:12:27  Show Profile
Thanks for the help everyone.

I just aquired this Ferrari today. someone was actually going to throw this away. Does anybody know anything about these??


60.7 KB
Go to Top of Page

jaysik
New Member

Livonia
Michigan
USA

47 Posts

Posted - 07/18/2006 :  02:20:51  Show Profile
Here is the closest specs I could find for the Ferrari, it appears the origin is the UK,
The features match the looks with:

* Leather look seat.
* Big 12V battery.
* 2 forward speeds and one reverse speed.
* Adult controlled speed limiter.
* Electric horn.
* Rubber tyres.
* Genuine Ferrari badges and styling.

Specifications of the electric car:

* Made from tough polypropolene.
* Steel chassis.
* The Ferrari electric car comes complete with a 12V charger.

This is an electric car against which all other children's electric cars will be measured.

The Ferrari Electric car is for Children up to 6 or 7 years (dependant of size).
Do you want to sell it?

1 Silverado(DEAD)
1 Barbie Jeep(WORKS)
1 Super Bigfoot(WORKS)
1 3 Wheeler Police(WORKS)
1 3 wheeler (DEAD)

Edited by - jaysik on 07/18/2006 02:22:09
Go to Top of Page

bandit2824
New Member

Chardon
OH

11 Posts

Posted - 07/18/2006 :  09:35:55  Show Profile
Going to try and fix it up and get it running to see what it can do. My son is only 3 so he might be too small but he will grow into it. Thanks for the info. I hadn't seen one before. Good score from the garbage then i guess.
Ill keep you advised how it performs.
Go to Top of Page

jaysik
New Member

Livonia
Michigan
USA

47 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2006 :  02:34:37  Show Profile
the treasures in the trash..... that car retailed for about 450.00 new. What a find, I wish I lived in your area. Keep me posted on it

1 Silverado(DEAD)
1 Barbie Jeep(WORKS)
1 Super Bigfoot(WORKS)
1 3 Wheeler Police(WORKS)
1 3 wheeler (DEAD)
Go to Top of Page

ebusby
Journeyman Modder


okinawa
Japan

158 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2006 :  03:46:47  Show Profile
has anyone tried the motors listed in the first thread here with the 24 volt conversion. i have to get new motors for my copper jeep. i was wondering what would be the best bet. i have 3 power wheels running 24 volts and this one motor is the only one that has went out on me in 3 months. of course it was setting outside when i got it, so they were rusted pretty bad. any suggestions on good motors if the first ones here wont work?

power wheeling internationally!
Go to Top of Page

ebusby
Journeyman Modder


okinawa
Japan

158 Posts

Posted - 08/24/2006 :  06:42:03  Show Profile
i also was looking between these 2 motors. which one is the prefered way to go? does one have more rehttp://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/item/DCM-267/400/DC_MOTOR,_3-24_VDC_.htmlason to buy than the other?
http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/item/DCM-231/search/FAN-COOLED_6-12_VDC_MOTOR_.html
which do you guys prefer? and why?

power wheeling internationally!
Go to Top of Page

ebusby
Journeyman Modder


okinawa
Japan

158 Posts

Posted - 08/24/2006 :  06:43:41  Show Profile
i also was looking between these 2 motors. which one is the prefered way to go? does one have more reason to buy than the other?
http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/item/DCM-267/400/DC_MOTOR,_3-24_VDC_.html http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/item/DCM-231/search/FAN-COOLED_6-12_VDC_MOTOR_.html
which do you guys prefer? and why?

power wheeling internationally!
Go to Top of Page
Page: of 11 Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
Next Page
 Forum Locked  Topic Locked
 Printer Friendly
Jump To:
 Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.05