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way7837
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Fairfield
CA
USA

14 Posts

Posted - 09/19/2010 :  13:42:20  Show Profile
I just picked up a used Nascar 12v Tony Stewart. It's bone stock and my son is having traction problems because of our terrain. My driveway has an uphill incline and the court we live in also has a slight incline. The stock Nascar tire does seem a bit worn from the previous owner, but it doesn't look too bad. Can someone give me a recommendation for traction? Should I get new stock tires?

Regards,
Waylon

Ryum
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32 Posts

Posted - 09/20/2010 :  19:22:20  Show Profile
http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to-install-traction-bands-onto-power-wheels-tires-264365/

is a how to I found on this subject on adding traction to a power wheel. The reason I was looking into traction for a power wheel is most of the videos I have seen where someone increases the speed by changing the battery seem to really increase the spinout, but the acceleration seems to suffer, and the tires seem to take more damage from fishtailing, and drift turns.

I saw one video where they increased a lightning mcqueen car to 21 volts and it looked like you had to give the car a push for it to actually start going forward.

What I don't know is if the "grab" of these bands would damage the motor... since it is basically on or off the added traction could be pretty bad for it. If there was a way to more slowly speed up to top speed that is where these bands would probably help the most, and have less possibility to cause harm.

Hopefully someone here with some experience on this will give their experience on this issue as I am just guessing.
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blake711
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Skiatook
OK
USA



2622 Posts

Posted - 09/20/2010 :  20:31:58  Show Profile
Traction dosen't hurt the motor it hurts the gearboxes. The spining out is actually saving them from the harsh pounding of locking up as soon as the kit kid hits the pedal. Best solution teach kids to start out in low then shift to high once rolling.

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Ryum
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32 Posts

Posted - 09/20/2010 :  23:40:56  Show Profile
That might work for way's but mine doesn't have a "low gear"
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way7837
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Fairfield
CA
USA

14 Posts

Posted - 09/21/2010 :  10:00:25  Show Profile
I need to find a solution. Our streets right outside my house has a slope. My son is riding a stock 12v Nascar. It won't even go uphill. The tires just keep on spinning. I can't upgrade it to 18v, it will make the matter worst. Any other ideas?
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CJB
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Lino Lakes
MN
USA



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Posted - 09/21/2010 :  10:23:02  Show Profile  Visit CJB's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by way7837

I need to find a solution. Our streets right outside my house has a slope. My son is riding a stock 12v Nascar. It won't even go uphill. The tires just keep on spinning. I can't upgrade it to 18v, it will make the matter worst. Any other ideas?



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Ryum
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32 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2010 :  00:45:34  Show Profile
Are any of these the kind of gearbox that a super6 uses?
http://mltoyz.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_8&zenid=pljs7mbhorv2a5arcqnc4gnup5

and if not can anyone link a place that sells the right ones? If the gearboxes are really around 13 bucks I might just order a used one and use it with some traction bands and see how it goes then if it does noticeable damage too soon then will scrap the traction band idea, but if it's more than a couple of months that seems like a decent cost for the traction.

All of this is dependent on how much spin out I see when I do go from 6v to dual 6v or 12v, but I'd like to be prepared since seeing those youtube videos of the lightning mcqueen that needed a push to get going cause it was spinning out so much.
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chozian
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Meridianville
AL (35759)
USA



631 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2010 :  07:53:14  Show Profile  Visit chozian's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Ryum

If the gearboxes are really around 13 bucks I might just order a used one and use it with some traction bands and see how it goes then if it does noticeable damage too soon then will scrap the traction band idea, but if it's more than a couple of months that seems like a decent cost for the traction.

All of this is dependent on how much spin out I see when I do go from 6v to dual 6v or 12v, but I'd like to be prepared since seeing those youtube videos of the lightning mcqueen that needed a push to get going cause it was spinning out so much.



I think going that route is your best bet. I believe that vehicle uses the same wheels as the Lightning McQueen. Unfortunately, even brand new Lightning McQueen wheels have very poor traction. You pretty much have to put traction bands on them if you want to stop/reduce the peel outs.


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Divinar
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San Jose 95123
CA
USA



3057 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2010 :  09:57:14  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Ryum

Are any of these the kind of gearbox that a super6 uses?
http://mltoyz.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_8&zenid=pljs7mbhorv2a5arcqnc4gnup5

and if not can anyone link a place that sells the right ones? If the gearboxes are really around 13 bucks I might just order a used one and use it with some traction bands and see how it goes then if it does noticeable damage too soon then will scrap the traction band idea, but if it's more than a couple of months that seems like a decent cost for the traction.

All of this is dependent on how much spin out I see when I do go from 6v to dual 6v or 12v, but I'd like to be prepared since seeing those youtube videos of the lightning mcqueen that needed a push to get going cause it was spinning out so much.



You'll have to open it up and look - the Lightning McQueen had 19T #7 gearboxes stock, both 12v and Super6.
Not sure on the Nascar, I didn't have one, but it's the same basic body and wheels, so it's likely the same gearboxes.

Fortunately, 19T's are common (they're in the non-lifted unibody Jeeps)


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bader
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furulund

Sweden

36 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2010 :  15:19:43  Show Profile
To ease the transmission and make the ride more realistic, upgrade to scooter controllers. Well worth your time.
Tractionbands are not a bad idea in combination with scooter controllers. No wheelspinning.

http://www.modifiedpowerwheels.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=20528
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bader
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furulund

Sweden

36 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2010 :  12:42:35  Show Profile

With 50% tractionband. Right wheel slightly spinning.

http://www.modifiedpowerwheels.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=20528
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lawfirmgwc
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Hewitt
TX
USA

3 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2010 :  15:29:42  Show Profile  Visit lawfirmgwc's Homepage
Has anyone tried using a cut up soaker hose as a way for extra traction? I was thinking that since soaker hoses are often made from recycled vehicle tires they might be an excellent way to get Power Wheel traction for cheap. I was thinking you could cut the hose, then wrap the tire and secure it to the tire using RTV silicone and perhaps some screws or rivets.
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jparthum
Senior Modder

(77627) Nederland
Texas
USA



2272 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2010 :  16:35:47  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by lawfirmgwc

Has anyone tried using a cut up soaker hose as a way for extra traction? I was thinking that since soaker hoses are often made from recycled vehicle tires they might be an excellent way to get Power Wheel traction for cheap. I was thinking you could cut the hose, then wrap the tire and secure it to the tire using RTV silicone and perhaps some screws or rivets.


I've never heard of anybody trying that, but it sounds like a good idea! I'm sure plenty of us have soaker hoses that spray us when we turn the water on , and having a fairly thin contact patch may not slow the wheels down as much on hard surfaces as the wider ones...?



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