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Taz11
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Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ

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Posted - 08/14/2010 :  06:23:32  Show Profile
Since I am waiting for parts for my Herbie project, I jumped into another one!

After a year and a half search, I finally caught the elusive Grave Digger (Thanks to Hypo21). Hypo found it and picked it up for me. I ended up getting it from him for $30 and a handfull of spare parts.

Here's Hypo's picture.


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It's in good cosmetic shape but has some mechanical issues. The body and stickers are good with only a few scuffs and scratches. the lights and sounds work. This has some very cool sounds!

I don't want to go hacking this one up because of what it is....

That being said, it could use a few mild changes. I will be doing this while my kids are using it so it will be done in many small projects. (I can't get it away from them)

The test drive confirmed a bad gearbox and a dead motor.
When I pulled it apart I found that someone had "rigged" the motor wires on with butt connectors. It failed!(I guess that explains the dead motor)

I installed some 19t gearboxes out of last months trash find Criusin Tunes Jeep and put the correct wire connectors on the motor wires.

To prevent a repeat failure I removed the 40 pounds of "car tire tread" from the wheels. To my surprise, only one was worn through. I filled that one with spray foam for a temporary fix. I took of the 14" Jeep wheels and put them in my parts stock.

The steering wheel was "egged out" at the shaft resulting in a major slop issue. (another result of those stupid car tires) I replaced it with a silver jeep wheel from my parts stash.

Here's what I have right now. Fully functional with some left over construction adheasive on the tires.



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I have some Ideas for this to make it a little more "correct" looking.

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Edited by - Taz11 on 08/14/2010 06:24:10

blake711
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Skiatook
OK
USA



2622 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2010 :  07:44:54  Show Profile
Looks good never thought of the foam on the wheels not a bad idea.

You need to get Alan P to hook you up with some new wheels for dropping off all those vehicles for him to test fit new tires on.

Is that misses Taz peaking through the steering wheel in the last photo?

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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2010 :  08:35:18  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by blake711

Looks good never thought of the foam on the wheels not a bad idea.

You need to get Alan P to hook you up with some new wheels for dropping off all those vehicles for him to test fit new tires on.

Is that misses Taz peaking through the steering wheel in the last photo?



Yup...Mrs Taz

Alan is actually hooking me up with a few sets of tires for that. That's why the beetle is in limbo....waiting for some back ordered Mcqueen tires.

I already have tire plans for the Digger....and a small lift.

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Taz11
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Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2010 :  19:51:53  Show Profile
Brief update for some brief work. I noticed that one gearbox was starting to click when the brakes came on. I quickly installed a .5 ohm resister in the brake wire. That might be a bit much for 12volt power but it was all I had and it's better than eating a gearbox. Test drive tomorrow to see for sure.

I also started tinkering with some vinyl scraps to make the chassis detail stand out. I have 3 more corners to do, plus the strip between the shocks that will be black. PITA, but it is big improvement.


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blake711
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Skiatook
OK
USA



2622 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2010 :  20:02:11  Show Profile
I like it looking good man.

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12vwiz
Expert Modder

Mobile
AL
USA



505 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2010 :  08:05:46  Show Profile
That detail is a night and day difference and looks like it was worth the extra effort. I really like the shocks, great idea!!

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AUSSIE DARREN
Journeyman Modder

BRISBANE
QLD
Australia



374 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2010 :  13:54:48  Show Profile
nice work on the shocks what a great idea

"Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass...it's about learning how to dance in the rain."
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Divinar
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San Jose 95123
CA
USA



3057 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2010 :  14:06:57  Show Profile
Wow - great work. But now you've just increased MY workload!


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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2010 :  20:14:30  Show Profile
Thanks guys.....the shock work requires a soft chair and a beer or two...or........Nerves shot quickly

Divinar.....more work for you coming up (and for anyone else with a GD)

Sooooo....Here's the next phase (taking a break from decals)


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I have 2 of these...and Hootie has two more heading my way. I am using all fronts for this. They are easier to find...all the rears get trashed.

For those who don't know....they are Gaucho tires. They are slightly taller and wider than the Digger tires......and they appear WAY bigger.....cool.

Here is how I set them up. I used the stock Digger inner wheel/driver.


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I marked and drilled the wheels to take the 4 drive pins and the center bushing. The center bushing fits snug for centering purposes. I used a unibit and went one size at a time until it dropped in.


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I added 4 screws just to be safe.


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Hmmmmm....... looks like the kids loose tomorrow


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Next up....2 1/4 inch lift. The rear is mostly complete but it's too darn late to post it now. I'll leave you in suspense 'til tomorrow.

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blake711
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Skiatook
OK
USA



2622 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2010 :  20:25:57  Show Profile
Yeah yeah pics or it didn't happen man.. You know the rules.

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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2010 :  14:30:12  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by blake711

Yeah yeah pics or it didn't happen man.. You know the rules.



Ok wise guy...here you go.

Since I was messing with the rear axle anyway I decided to go to 1/2 inch, since it is so long and seems to lack support.


I started with a 1/2 drill from the inside. I went as far down as I could (against the bottom) and drilled a hole on each side.


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I was surprised that the gearboxes fit better at this location that they did in the stock location. I drilled a 5/8 hole to provide clearance for one of the cross shaft "support collars" on the gearbox. (the bumps that stick out where the gear shafts fit in)


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This locked the gearbox in place flush to the body and allowed the stock cover to be reinstalled with just a small amount of trimming.


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Here is the inside shot. It looks like it belongs there. I plan to make up a few reinforcing blocks for here since the axle goes through a single layer of plastic now instead of the stock sleeve.


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Edited by - Taz11 on 08/20/2010 14:32:28
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Divinar
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San Jose 95123
CA
USA



3057 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2010 :  14:33:08  Show Profile
Of course, you'll have to paint the visible part of the gearbox once everything is done...


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blake711
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Skiatook
OK
USA



2622 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2010 :  14:37:37  Show Profile
Very Slick

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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2010 :  14:38:57  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Divinar

Of course, you'll have to paint the visible part of the gearbox once everything is done...




Possibly, the tire will hide most of it. I may also make the move to a black set.

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wozbean
Journeyman Modder

Suwanee
GA
USA

194 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2010 :  15:04:48  Show Profile
very cool.

Dale Jr. 18v and 21T
12v McQueen - SOLD
12v Jeff Gordon race car - SOLD
12v Grave Digger 15T w/Titans
KidTrax Red Fire Truck
yellow peg gator 12v
Yellow Gaucho Grande
Blue Jeep Hurricane - SOLD
6v chinese trike on 12v
Safety 1st Batmobile
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blake711
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Skiatook
OK
USA



2622 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2010 :  15:26:49  Show Profile
Yeah I was thinking just go with black and they shouldn't be as noticable

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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 08/21/2010 :  05:36:56  Show Profile
Well, shortly after I reattached the body......I realized that I never took pics of the plywood blocks I added.

I will take some when I take it back off to finish the vinyl work. For now I'll leave you with a finished shot. I'm going to wait until I get the other two wheels from hootie before I lift the front. For now I put the best two stock tires on the front.



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Modmom32
Expert Modder

Cookeville
Tennessee
USA



830 Posts

Posted - 08/22/2010 :  15:00:26  Show Profile  Visit Modmom32's Homepage
Looks great!!!! I am getting one of theseTue thanks to blake711 not sure of what it looks like in person but, better detail... Speed..... Lift....and for me traction. And lights and neons underbody. I will take notes GREAT WORK!!!!

*arctic Shark snowmobile (beng modified again, scooter) but works!
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gseric69
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Red Lion
PA
USA



6315 Posts

Posted - 08/22/2010 :  17:18:19  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
Don't forget to put that Jeep hubcap on the middle of the axle

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)

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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 08/22/2010 :  18:45:33  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by gseric69

Don't forget to put that Jeep hubcap on the middle of the axle



LOL...that's the cleanest hubcap I own. It's a plywood block now.

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wozbean
Journeyman Modder

Suwanee
GA
USA

194 Posts

Posted - 08/22/2010 :  18:50:08  Show Profile
What is the purpose of that anyway?

Dale Jr. 18v and 21T
12v McQueen - SOLD
12v Jeff Gordon race car - SOLD
12v Grave Digger 15T w/Titans
KidTrax Red Fire Truck
yellow peg gator 12v
Yellow Gaucho Grande
Blue Jeep Hurricane - SOLD
6v chinese trike on 12v
Safety 1st Batmobile
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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 08/22/2010 :  20:10:32  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by wozbean

What is the purpose of that anyway?



The best I can figure, it's supposed to help support the axle so it doesn't bow in the middle.

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wozbean
Journeyman Modder

Suwanee
GA
USA

194 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2010 :  05:20:48  Show Profile
I C

Dale Jr. 18v and 21T
12v McQueen - SOLD
12v Jeff Gordon race car - SOLD
12v Grave Digger 15T w/Titans
KidTrax Red Fire Truck
yellow peg gator 12v
Yellow Gaucho Grande
Blue Jeep Hurricane - SOLD
6v chinese trike on 12v
Safety 1st Batmobile
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Modmom32
Expert Modder

Cookeville
Tennessee
USA



830 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2010 :  21:08:06  Show Profile  Visit Modmom32's Homepage
Cant wait to see finished product. hope you do not taking notes of your project.

*arctic Shark snowmobile (beng modified again, scooter) but works!
*indianaJones Harley *desert bike *desert Challenger street bike *saftey 1st Chopper *SF viper*Herbie fully loaded via remote 12v....18v if lucky *gravedigger *mx350 *john deer tractor( still his favorite) *blue flame bigfoot *A151 * qty 2 twin 700* mx3 trike n 2 powerrider nascars (DALE SR n used to be #24 now General Lee) SOLD> 12v herbie
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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 08/28/2010 :  05:38:10  Show Profile
Ok.....The UPS guy was busy this week. All my projects are up and moving again.

This project just got bigger! I hate when that happens ! More on that later.

To make the lift on the front I used two front axles out of a black Ninja 74110. I trimmed off the stock axles at the edge of the steering knuckle. I flipped the Ninja axle on its side so the long side is now the new axle. I trimmed the other leg to 2 1/4 inches (lift height) and welded it to the stock axle.


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I used two shaft collars to position the wheel on the axle.


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This is where the project got bigger RUTT ROW!


It just so happen that there is enough extra axle to fit.....
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A Gator gearbox




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It fits inside the back of the wheel. I can see this one getting out of hand in a hurry!

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blake711
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Skiatook
OK
USA



2622 Posts

Posted - 08/28/2010 :  05:54:35  Show Profile
Nice idea on the dual shaft collars as I was looking at that I Was going to ask if yo had to weld a little washer stop on there then you answered my question as I read along. You know once you add the Peg GB in front you won't be happy till you have them on all 4 corners. Also how close are the gear ratios?

Looking great as always Mr. Power Wheel Genius.

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Taz11
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Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 08/28/2010 :  07:54:17  Show Profile
The Gator box is the same as a 17t #7. I just happen to have some out in a Dune Beetle. Approx 138:1


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Divinar
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San Jose 95123
CA
USA



3057 Posts

Posted - 08/28/2010 :  08:06:00  Show Profile
Oh, man! This is gonna be good!

I doubt you need a set of red drivers for those gearboxes?


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KFX Quad (Remote Kill), Crushmeister! (Silverado), Limited Edition Jeep (Stock)
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hypo21
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Bangor
PA
USA



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Posted - 08/28/2010 :  08:13:32  Show Profile  Send hypo21 a Yahoo! Message
WOW! I had been away on vacation and finally got a chance to go through this. I can nto wait to see it in October! I am very glad I had to pass on this and you got it Taz, YOu are doing WAY more than I could have even imagined!! Remember.. I get Dibs once it is Out Grown LOL... (just Kidding)

Getting there... This is just too addicting. Love it.

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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 08/28/2010 :  10:23:28  Show Profile
Div....Got a parts department 70 vehicles strong!. I'm set, Thanks.

Hypo....You still have dibs, the price may go up some, but you have dibs

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jparthum
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(77627) Nederland
Texas
USA



2272 Posts

Posted - 08/28/2010 :  15:45:02  Show Profile
I've been quietly lurking in awe, but I have to speak up now...


YOU'RE A MADMAN!!!





(pics link to threads)

Fast, Reliable, and Cheap... Pick any two.

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hotrodtodd
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Delhi
OH
USA



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Posted - 08/29/2010 :  04:58:22  Show Profile  Visit hotrodtodd's Homepage
I've been quietly watching too .
Nice work so far,I like your idea on the front axle lift/extend.That thing is gonna be awesome!

Lifted Metal Frame JeepPower Drivers Trike
Bigfoot
Worksite Gator
Driveway Racer
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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2010 :  20:12:32  Show Profile
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