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toadismcg
New Member
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 Posted - 03/26/2010 : 13:31:29
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Hello all! New guy here. I am interested in giving my son’s F150 a little more speed. It currently only has forward and reverse. I’ve been reading the forums for days prior to posting since I hate to ask an ill-informed question, but here I go anyway.
It sounds like all I need to do is get a 12v batter, cut off the connectors and wire a 30amp fuse on the positive side then wire what is left into the old batter connector. Is that correct?
What about charging? Can I use the same charger?
Also what is the importance of the amph? Is it voltage or amph that gives me the speed?
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Mr. Lynch
Journeyman Modder
Renton
Wa
USA
102 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2010 : 13:37:27
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If your current 6v red battery is good, just add a 2nd one. The super6 vehicles on 12v go pretty fast and my kids love them.
The voltage is what gives you speed, the "AH" is what gives you drive time. |
Working:
Super6 Jazzy Jeep (12v), Super6 Trail Rider (12v), Barbie Escalade (BMX tires), Lil people Tot Rod
Peg Santa Fe Train (6v)
Projects:
Jeep Wrangler Limited, Escalade (Seahawk theme), Metal Frame Jeep Sahari |
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toadismcg
New Member
2 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2010 : 15:04:41
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Do I still need a fuse if I use that type of wiring?
Also how can I test my current battery? |
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gseric69
Moderator
Red Lion
PA
USA
6315 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2010 : 20:30:28
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quote:
Originally posted by toadismcg
Do I still need a fuse if I use that type of wiring?
Also how can I test my current battery?
If you use stock PW batteries, you don't need to add a fuse. If you use aftermarket batteries, you must add a fuse.
A volt meter is a good way to test your battery. They aren't that expensive. |
36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted) |
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sleepy23
Journeyman Modder
Maryville
TN
495 Posts |
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treebeme
Advanced Modder
Holtsville
NY
USA
3209 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2010 : 09:25:19
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| It depends on which generation of F-150 you have. The ones my kids had (2nd generation) did have two seat positions but even with the seat back it got tight on space at 5 or 6 years old. |
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Screamin Demon (600 watt scooter motor, 36v scooter controller)
Red Harley (trike, 24v scooter controller, 13t MFJ gearboxes/motors)
KFX Quad (24v scooter controller, MFJ 12t gearboxes/motors)
Fire Rescue Jeep (24v scooter controller, 15t #7 gearboxes/motors)
Franken(berry)beast (24v scooter controller, 2-250Watt Scooter motors)
Grave Digger (21T gearboxes)
Super Shock
Razor MX-350 Motorcycle
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Jeep Wrangler (on hold)
Barbie Cruzin Tunes Jeep (24v scooter controller)
TCV Indy Racer (24v scooter controller)
Gator (on hold)
Silverado Dragster (on hold)
Apache (on hold)
Metal big wheel (24v scooter controller)
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sleepy23
Journeyman Modder
Maryville
TN
495 Posts |
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sleepy23
Journeyman Modder
Maryville
TN
495 Posts |
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rockjessemax
Journeyman Modder
mayfield
kentucky
USA
478 Posts |
Posted - 05/22/2010 : 06:09:43
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Maybe I missed it but adding a second 6v for speed, the 2 6v will have to be wired in series to create 12v. The wiring and motors in the f150 should be OK. As for the seat...I cut the rear/lower part of the seat base off and that allowed me to move the seat rearward. Not too much or you will expose the the lower compartment to the weather.
You can't use the stock 6v charger to charge a single 12v but you can use it to charge the 2 6v. Just hook them up in parallel and charge them both at the same time. |
Transporter of:
"LIBERTY BELL 7"
I LIVE IN A BATTERY POWERED WORLD |
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eclipsed95
Journeyman Modder
Romney
WV
USA
167 Posts |
Posted - 05/22/2010 : 18:48:15
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| I switched the connector of our F150 to the 12V end and it's quick on 12 volts. We've had great luck with getting speed out of the super 6's. We currently run super 6/12 volts on our F150, Dora Jeep, Big Foot, and Big Jake. All single seaters, but they're light and go fast. |
About 20 of these things and counting!
Yeah, it's a little addicting.....
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sleepy23
Journeyman Modder
Maryville
TN
495 Posts |
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PW ChopShop
New Member
Memphis
TN
USA
5 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2010 : 12:04:06
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Originally posted by sleepy23
So maybe 7-8mph?
My GPS gives a top speed reading of 6.7 to 7.2MPH on Two different Super6 rides. I would put average speed of a Super 6 at 12V a shade under 7MPH. |
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sleepy23
Journeyman Modder
Maryville
TN
495 Posts |
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eclipsed95
Journeyman Modder
Romney
WV
USA
167 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2010 : 19:11:54
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| If the stock 12v pw's go 5, then 7mph sounds about right. |
About 20 of these things and counting!
Yeah, it's a little addicting.....
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v8280z
Apprentice Modder
Mesa
AZ
USA
91 Posts |
Posted - 05/27/2010 : 19:29:05
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| I put a 12v 8AH Gruber battery in our 6v F150 and it is as fast as the 18v Lambo with Titan 550 motors. The only problem is that it is so light in the rear it spins the tires like crazy! My 6yo loves to do doughnuts with it! |
18v Lamborghini (MP3, Lights, gauges, water cannon)
12v F-150 (super 6 motors, lights, remote kill switch)
12v Jeep (super 6 motors, lights)
12v Lil Quad |
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sleepy23
Journeyman Modder
Maryville
TN
495 Posts |
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aztracks
Journeyman Modder
Chandler
Arizona
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2010 : 12:18:35
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I just put 12V in our F150 and it was pretty fast. I didn't intend to make a project out of this one but couldn't resist. I'll get a speed reading on it soon to provide another data point.
Wire and motors were warm but not hot after 45 minutes of operation on a warm day.
I didn't do anything but put another battery in but I am probably going to make it two speed with slow reverse. My son popped it directly into reverse and blew the 30A fuse I had inline.
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F-150:
'94 Super Sound Jeep Sand Blaster : http://www.modifiedpowerwheels.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17274 |
Edited by - aztracks on 06/01/2010 12:20:40 |
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sleepy23
Journeyman Modder
Maryville
TN
495 Posts |
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aztracks
Journeyman Modder
Chandler
Arizona
USA
118 Posts |
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sleepy23
Journeyman Modder
Maryville
TN
495 Posts |
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sleepy23
Journeyman Modder
Maryville
TN
495 Posts |
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sssrip
Journeyman Modder
Churchton
MD
USA
170 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2010 : 06:14:32
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"If your current 6v red battery is good, just add a 2nd one"
Anybody of have a picture of a super 6 wired like this for more speed or point me in the direction of one. Pictures are much easier for me to understand. |
Super6 Fire Truck
Gator
Big Jake
Cat Skid Steer
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aztracks
Journeyman Modder
Chandler
Arizona
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2010 : 00:11:48
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I didn't intend to make a project out of this one but I couldn't help myself. Currently it simply has 2 6V batteries installed in series using quick connect terminals (with electrical tape over them). I plan to make a more permanent setup and use thicker wire.
Here is where I cut the hole and used some rivets and webbing to make a new battery spot. I used a dremel tool and the hole is just big enough.
Here is what I use to hold the battery. I have a Werker battery and a power wheels battery in this vehicle. It fits in snug. When I redo it I'll probably put some kind of a strap over both batteries, but they are pretty well secured for now.
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F-150:
'94 Super Sound Jeep Sand Blaster : http://www.modifiedpowerwheels.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17274 |
Edited by - aztracks on 06/03/2010 00:22:11 |
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sleepy23
Journeyman Modder
Maryville
TN
495 Posts |
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aztracks
Journeyman Modder
Chandler
Arizona
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2010 : 00:09:27
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I took some measurements with my F150 running on pavement using GPS and a current clamp meter.
Running 6V (6.5 unloaded)
2.8 mph pulling 5.2A
Running 12V (13.08 unloaded)
6.5 mph pulling 10.0A
So it looks like it more than doubled. I took some other current measurements but I'll put them in another post. |
F-150:
'94 Super Sound Jeep Sand Blaster : http://www.modifiedpowerwheels.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17274 |
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sleepy23
Journeyman Modder
Maryville
TN
495 Posts |
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aztracks
Journeyman Modder
Chandler
Arizona
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2010 : 14:27:04
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Originally posted by sleepy23
That's interesting. That is on super6 motors?
It's stock and I'm pretty sure it's super6 motors. It's a 1 seater F150 that we bought new last November and it ran 6V stock, with only forward and reverse. |
F-150:
'94 Super Sound Jeep Sand Blaster : http://www.modifiedpowerwheels.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17274 |
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sleepy23
Journeyman Modder
Maryville
TN
495 Posts |
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blake711
Advanced Modder
Skiatook
OK
USA
2622 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2010 : 05:16:48
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Originally posted by siliumang
this is a little hard for me~
can I get some eggs with my spam? Also hashbrowns and biscuit and gravy please. |
Please sign up at new version of forum at http://forum.modifiedpowerwheels.com/
complexity is the enemy of reliability |
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Divinar
Moderator
San Jose 95123
CA
USA
3057 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2010 : 15:21:13
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quote:
Originally posted by blake711
quote:
Originally posted by siliumang
this is a little hard for me~
can I get some eggs with my spam? Also hashbrowns and biscuit and gravy please.
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Escalade (Rubber tires, LED lights, Key switch, Remote Kill, wings. Wings?)
Lil Wrangler (2WD, 12v, Lights), Dora Jeep (Super-6 @ 12v, lights), Jeep Enforcer turned Aftershock (18v, WIP),
Grape Gaucho A151 (24v, scooter controller, WIP)
KFX Quad (Remote Kill), Crushmeister! (Silverado), Limited Edition Jeep (Stock)
Kawasaki Mojave 250 (Stock), PP Gator (Lights), Home Depot Loader, Lightning McQueen (Stock) |
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Ryum
New Member
32 Posts |
Posted - 09/20/2010 : 17:56:46
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The pictures aztracks posted helped, but I don't really understand this set up yet.
What changes do you make to the stock fischer price 6v battery so that another 6v can be added to it?
I do like with that set up you still use the original connection that runs to the motor. What are the pros and cons of using
one 12v battery vs two 6 volt batteries with one of them being the original stock battery?
I have seen a video on how to take out the connector in a bad fisher price battery, but not how to modify a working one like this. |
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sleepy23
Journeyman Modder
Maryville
TN
495 Posts |
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sleepy23
Journeyman Modder
Maryville
TN
495 Posts |
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