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mford514
Apprentice Modder
lakeland
fl
USA
92 Posts |
 Posted - 11/15/2009 : 23:29:44
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this is my first post, i'll get that out of the way first. new to the PW scene, but not the wiring\mechanic etc....so that being said...
my daughter is getting to the age of liking to ride the neighbors powerwheels. so i got her one for christmas....its killing me not to be able to give it to her yet.( but thats besides the point)
anyway, i have read most of the FAQs and most of my questions have been pretty much answered.
my main goal is to convert it to 24 volt. but i have to give her a couple of months to learn to drive it better first.
anyway, i have read a few post about the motors not lasting long after the conversion, then others have said that theirs have lasted a long time.
what is the average time frame that the motors will last after 24v conversion?
is it worth it for me to change it on a brand new pw that i paid 299 for, or should i just buy one off of craigslist for 30 bucks and convert it instead of the new one?
what are your thoughts?????
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HLMDAD
Expert Modder
Apple Valley
Cali
USA
857 Posts |
Posted - 11/15/2009 : 23:36:16
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| first off welcome! now my opinion, no go find a cheap one off craigslist and experiment with that...you paid 300 for that one, dont necessarily "leave it alone" you can do alot with that one...paint, lighting, audio, etc. , she will love that one! I GUARANTEE this is not your last power wheels. save the conversion for a cheap one until you know how it does first hand. Dont be like me, let the kid enjoy it before you break it. :) (again thats my opinion!) |
My wife said stop at 10... well 35 and counting.
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mford514
Apprentice Modder
lakeland
fl
USA
92 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2009 : 00:01:25
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Originally posted by HLMDAD
first off welcome! now my opinion, no go find a cheap one off craigslist and experiment with that...you paid 300 for that one, dont necessarily "leave it alone" you can do alot with that one...paint, lighting, audio, etc. , she will love that one! I GUARANTEE this is not your last power wheels. save the conversion for a cheap one until you know how it does first hand. Dont be like me, let the kid enjoy it before you break it. :) (again thats my opinion!)
thats kinda what i was thinking, theres a barbie jeep on craigslist for like 30 bucks i can probably get it for 20...
when i got the mustang i had fully planned on making it 24v but now after reading alot of these post i don't know if i want to do that right away,
how long do the batteries usually last....ride time, battery life...etc? motors? |
-Mike
my first PW...09' mustang GT...stock (as of now)
-Daddy's Rides-
Lil' Quad 19.2v
Barbie Cruisin Tunes Jeep...in progress
Barbie Mustang (stock for now) |
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HLMDAD
Expert Modder
Apple Valley
Cali
USA
857 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2009 : 00:07:13
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depends on the battery. this is what i have had happen....
(power wheels batteries)
more voltage = less ride time
i believe you need to get a battery with a higher AH rating (aftermarket battery)
ive juiced up power wheels super 6 motors with 12v...those held up fine
12v to 18v held up fine.
you may want to add heat sinks, fuses, and a fan if you go any higher then that...
(please someone correct me if im wrong) |
My wife said stop at 10... well 35 and counting.
My new website |
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HLMDAD
Expert Modder
Apple Valley
Cali
USA
857 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2009 : 00:18:37
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| very true. forgot the important stuff! lol |
My wife said stop at 10... well 35 and counting.
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MustangFreak
Senior Modder
San Antonio
Texas
USA
1221 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2009 : 01:55:00
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Welcome to the site, and addiction. Pretty soon you will be pawning your TV to buy Power Wheels, or parts.  
The mustang is one of the fastest stock PW. Good job! On 18v, it goes pretty fast, and does doughnuts easily. I would stick to 18v max, and also you might try upgrading to the Titan motors. They are rated at 14.4v and are quite a bit faster than stock (from what I have heard) On 18v it should really fly. You can get them at hobbymaster.com, towerhobbies.com and also if you have a Hobby Town USA local, you should be able to get them from there.
It is usually recommended to use heatsinks but on 18v I havent had a problem with any of my sons rides getting hot. Just keep an eye on them and if they do start to get pretty hot, add heatsinks.
That would be a good start to making the mustang fast. Also motor swaps wont take long at all and you can have it back on the road quickly.
When you do upgrade to 18v, if you use aftermarket batteries, be sure to add the fuse. Im not sure if you need one if you will be using the stock 12v + aftermarket 6v... someone else will know though. |
I'm not an addict, addicts have the potential to quit.
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gseric69
Moderator
Red Lion
PA
USA
6315 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2009 : 07:52:53
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Welcome to the site!
As discussed already, 18V is usually a good voltage to stick to. The mustangs have 21T gearboxes, which are the fastest Power Wheels gearboxes, and on 18V I'm sure you're daughter will be more than happy with the speed. It's much more reliable than 24V, especially if she'll be riding on grass at all.
When you do add another battery, you'll have to consider things such as where to put it, how much cutting you're willing do to, what type of batteries to use. From what I've read on the mustangs, there really isn't any place to put an additional battery without cutting a place for it.
If you keep the stock 12V battery, and go with an aftermarket 6V battery, you'll need to get either a 10AH or 12AH battery to keep it close to the stock 9.5AH. The stock battery has a breaker in it, so you won't need to add a fuse or breaker if you keep it, but on 18V, you may find it trips the breaker a lot when riding on grass or uphill. If most of the driving will be on flat pavement, it probably won't trip much, if at all.
If you are dead set on 24V, then there are things you can do to help keep the motors and gearboxes from breaking down. Heatsinks and cooling fans are practically a must to keep the motors cool. To help reduce the strain on the gearboxes, you can add a seperate brake pedal, so the motors don't automatically lock when the gas pedal is let up. If that doesn't seem like something you want to do, you could put a higher value resistor in, or remove the auto brake wire so the car would roll to a stop rather that stopping abruptly, which is where most of the strain occurs. |
36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted) |
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RICKYVB
Senior Modder
TAMPA
FLORIDA
USA
1265 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2009 : 14:28:45
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WELCOME!
First let me warn you about myself.
New or Used,I have to mod it.
With that said.
Have a look at this...
It is far from done.But...
That pretty Pink Mustang is more then welcome to join the Police Department... |
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mford514
Apprentice Modder
lakeland
fl
USA
92 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2009 : 21:10:15
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Originally posted by gseric69
Welcome to the site!
When you do add another battery, you'll have to consider things such as where to put it, how much cutting you're willing do to, what type of batteries to use. From what I've read on the mustangs, there really isn't any place to put an additional battery without cutting a place for it.
thats one thing that i was wondering...there isn't much room to put even another 6v battery...im sure i could do some cutting
i was wondering, if anyone in her had done some cutting on the mustangs and if so could i see some pics of it....what worked best, etc... |
-Mike
my first PW...09' mustang GT...stock (as of now)
-Daddy's Rides-
Lil' Quad 19.2v
Barbie Cruisin Tunes Jeep...in progress
Barbie Mustang (stock for now) |
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RICKYVB
Senior Modder
TAMPA
FLORIDA
USA
1265 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2009 : 21:35:29
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Some Cutting?...
Yes!!!
I have a ton of room for batterys now under the Hood!
Well,if I had a Hood,I would have a ton of room. |
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mford514
Apprentice Modder
lakeland
fl
USA
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RICKYVB
Senior Modder
TAMPA
FLORIDA
USA
1265 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2009 : 21:48:12
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only one 12v will fit there...i could probably put 2 but the hood wouldn't close.....I do have a hood...;)
You can Fit a 12 volt and a 6Volt under there easy.The Hood Will Shut.If you want.I can measure mine to tell you where to cut and how to do it.I use a Razor knife and a Blow Torch.I heat the Plastic up and then slice it like butter.Gives you a smooth cut.This way your kids dont get cut if they mess around under the hood!!! |
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MustangFreak
Senior Modder
San Antonio
Texas
USA
1221 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2009 : 22:00:35
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| I put my 12v/12AH on its side in the stock hole. You could probably put one under the seat also. I believe there is some room under there. The hood has a lot of room under it actually. You would be suprised what could fit under there, especially if you got one of those thin batteries from Gruber. |
I'm not an addict, addicts have the potential to quit.
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mford514
Apprentice Modder
lakeland
fl
USA
92 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2009 : 13:29:11
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ok so i want to know everyones opinion....i have the new mustang.....i got it for 20% off because it was last years model....but now being christmas time the have the new model for 249(which is the price i paid for the one i have....the new one is a little diff body style....which do you guys like better? which would u keep? i like the the GT body style but i also like that the new one has a hood cowl....opinions please.
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-Mike
my first PW...09' mustang GT...stock (as of now)
-Daddy's Rides-
Lil' Quad 19.2v
Barbie Cruisin Tunes Jeep...in progress
Barbie Mustang (stock for now) |
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jazzcat
Expert Modder
Mesa
az
USA
748 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2009 : 13:42:23
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Originally posted by mford514
ok so i want to know everyones opinion....i have the new mustang.....i got it for 20% off because it was last years model....but now being christmas time the have the new model for 249(which is the price i paid for the one i have....the new one is a little diff body style....which do you guys like better? which would u keep? i like the the GT body style but i also like that the new one has a hood cowl....opinions please.
hood/bodystyle of newer one is nicer, your current one has nicer wheels..see if you can't just get the cowl to add to your existing one and call it a day |
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wintersun
Journeyman Modder
Yulee
FL
447 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2009 : 13:44:01
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mford514
Apprentice Modder
lakeland
fl
USA
92 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2009 : 13:45:28
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yeah i like the body style of the newer one better, but i don't like the wheels as much....but i also don't know if i like the seats that much....i wish i could just get the hood...but it wont be the same color. :( awwww choices....
does anyone know about the Gearing in the new one compaired to the old one?
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-Mike
my first PW...09' mustang GT...stock (as of now)
-Daddy's Rides-
Lil' Quad 19.2v
Barbie Cruisin Tunes Jeep...in progress
Barbie Mustang (stock for now) |
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slantedii
Journeyman Modder
simi valley
ca
USA
211 Posts |
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turbokev
Senior Modder
Fremont
New Hampshire
USA
1283 Posts |
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gseric69
Moderator
Red Lion
PA
USA
6315 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2009 : 14:57:08
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| I like the old one better, but the Cowl hood is better. I second what TurboKev said and just buy a new hood from Hobbymasters. |
36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted) |
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mford514
Apprentice Modder
lakeland
fl
USA
92 Posts |
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MustangFreak
Senior Modder
San Antonio
Texas
USA
1221 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2009 : 20:07:46
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I never noticed before that the 2010 body style is a v-6... that stinks. I wonder if the 05 grill would fit... Ive always wanted to try and put the front end of the 2010 on the 05 (real mustangs too). You could always buy the Cervinis mustang for 500 bucks... lol. It looks awesome, has a better spoiler, side pipes, and some other different body mods.
I got lucky though, my sons mustang is red, so if I order a hood I can just throw it on and call it good. Well, after I get some Roushcharged decals made for it. |
I'm not an addict, addicts have the potential to quit.
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KnjMiller1
Apprentice Modder
Jacksonville
FL
USA
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