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Taz11
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Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ

3739 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2009 :  16:02:08  Show Profile
Since it's already November, I decided to postpone the Slammer project a little longer and concentrate on the 4x4 project. This was going to be metal frame project, but I have come across some stuff this summer that has redirected me. (besides MF 4x4 has been done before)

Here's the Victim. It's a Take Along Tunes Jeep donated by the town garbage man. We ran it for a while but got a Cruisin' Tunes Jeep a few months later that was in better shape and had a working sound box (from the same garbage man). So...this one got moved to the project pile.


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RICKYVB
Senior Modder

TAMPA
FLORIDA
USA

1265 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2009 :  16:08:10  Show Profile
Sweet!
I have the same jeep.
Can't wait to see some progress!!!
Love the wall in the background.
Very nice Photos...LMAO

Edited by - RICKYVB on 11/11/2009 16:21:46
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HLMDAD
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Apple Valley
Cali
USA



857 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2009 :  16:17:56  Show Profile  Visit HLMDAD's Homepage
thats guna be a fun lil jeep. im working on a 4x4 as well, i found one of my Chinese knock off cars had a metal frame, so i wired up (4) 6v motors and im going to use the fire rescue body on it. i want this thing to be able to climbs some sick hills!

cant wait to see your built. lots of fun!

My wife said stop at 10... well 35 and counting.





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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2009 :  16:30:11  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by RICKYVB


Love the wall in the background.
Very nice Photos...LMAO



Its funny how most members notice that

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RICKYVB
Senior Modder

TAMPA
FLORIDA
USA

1265 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2009 :  16:32:09  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Taz11

quote:
Originally posted by RICKYVB


Love the wall in the background.
Very nice Photos...LMAO



Its funny how most members notice that



Hey,I noticed the jeep about 15 minutes later.
Sheessshhh!
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Divinar
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San Jose 95123
CA
USA



3057 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2009 :  16:40:25  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by RICKYVB

quote:
Originally posted by Taz11

quote:
Originally posted by RICKYVB


Love the wall in the background.
Very nice Photos...LMAO



Its funny how most members notice that



Hey,I noticed the jeep about 15 minutes later.
Sheessshhh!



What Jeep?


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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2009 :  19:33:53  Show Profile
It finally happened...I had to take the saw to a perfectly good PW.I kept telling myself "its for a good cause".

Here's the new front end donor. Well...whats left of it anyway anybody need skid steer parts?. No...that was not the project skid steer. I bought this one (YES I said BOUGHT, some of you may need to sit down now) from a CL add ($25) to get the battery cover for my project skid steer.(like new with good batt.)


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Here's the piece I'm using


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The idea is to stick this in place of the front module. I'm hoping that, with a little trimming, the locating "sump"(for lack of a better term) on the jeep will fit down in this opening.


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It needs some more trimming, but these pics should give you the general Idea. It should sit 2 inches lower when its done.


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Dylan13
Senior Modder

Oakmont
Pa



1113 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2009 :  19:54:11  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Taz11

quote:
Originally posted by RICKYVB


Love the wall in the background.
Very nice Photos...LMAO



Its funny how most members notice that



Half naked ladies and beer - looks like a party to me Can't wait to see the outcome

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MustangFreak
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San Antonio
Texas
USA



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Posted - 11/11/2009 :  22:41:50  Show Profile  Visit MustangFreak's Homepage  Send MustangFreak a Yahoo! Message
Man... I was hoping that was the project... I wanted the extra handle you rigged up for the bucket. Maybe is you still have the handle a while from now, I might buy it and try to follow how you made the other one. Not any time soon though I have way too many projects.



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RICKYVB
Senior Modder

TAMPA
FLORIDA
USA

1265 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2009 :  22:54:54  Show Profile
AAAAAAAAAahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh,NOooooooooooooooo....
You cut a skid steer.
That's sad.
But,I know what your going threw.
The Raptor getting it's rear cut off hurt at first.
Now,I don't even think about that pain.
End Result,pure JOY!



I'm going back to look at the chicks now.
Great thread by the way.
Now when the old lady shows up,I dont have to find the X in the right corner of the screen fast...LMAO

I just say,That's a very nice jeep Taz has there.
Very nice indeed!!!
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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2009 :  20:14:45  Show Profile
I finished trimming the new module tonight. It fits like it was made for a jeep. I did all the trimming with a Handi-saw, a chisel,and a utility knife. The chisel worked great for cleaning up the trimmed areas.

Here are some pics so you can see where to cut. It should look like this when you are done.


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Here it is mounted to the Jeep body. I used 2) 1/4-20 bolts with washers to keep it in place. The bolts are just outside the factory mounting holes.


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The next step will be the steering linkage.

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gseric69
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Red Lion
PA
USA



6315 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2009 :  20:17:34  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
Nice work, and you even get a lift with it too!
Are #7's going to fit up front, or do you plant to keep the #3's?

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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Modmom32
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Cookeville
Tennessee
USA



830 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2009 :  20:25:40  Show Profile  Visit Modmom32's Homepage
Hey seriously...how much to TN
Oh and I understand, Rickyvb and You and I have PW anxiety. but good will come of it right"?"

*arctic Shark snowmobile (beng modified again, scooter) but works!
*indianaJones Harley *desert bike *desert Challenger street bike *saftey 1st Chopper *SF viper*Herbie fully loaded via remote 12v....18v if lucky *gravedigger *mx350 *john deer tractor( still his favorite) *blue flame bigfoot *A151 * qty 2 twin 700* mx3 trike n 2 powerrider nascars (DALE SR n used to be #24 now General Lee) SOLD> 12v herbie
AMY

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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2009 :  20:28:08  Show Profile
I'm going with 3s. The 7s wont fit, the 3s are tight. I'll probably put 3s in the rear to keep the gearing the same.(although the 19t #7s are real close to the 3b) The shared load should keep them from getting trashed........I hope. I can put the 7's back in the rear if I have problems.

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gseric69
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Red Lion
PA
USA



6315 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2009 :  21:34:47  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Taz11

I'm going with 3s. The 7s wont fit, the 3s are tight. I'll probably put 3s in the rear to keep the gearing the same.(although the 19t #7s are real close to the 3b) The shared load should keep them from getting trashed........I hope. I can put the 7's back in the rear if I have problems.



You'd probably be OK with keeping the 19Ts in the rear. swhenrik ended up with that setup inadvertantly in hid 4wd Dora Quad and didn't have any problems with it.

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)

Edited by - gseric69 on 11/13/2009 21:36:46
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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 11/19/2009 :  20:39:54  Show Profile
Tonight was steering fab night. It's still falling together(starting to scare me a little) The first thing I did was to rebuild the front end. I added some aluminum plates and shaft collars. I plan to use shaft collars on the whole project. Since it's a R&D project, I may have to take it apart a few times.

I added turnbuckles to the two tierods. This step is not nessasary if you don't have a welder. I prefer to do it on my projects. It makes it possible to adjust the wear out of the front end. I used the stock tierod from the jeep(the one from the skid steer is not set up to take the steering shaft). I drilled 2 new holes and cut the ends off. I used the steering shaft hole to center it all up before drilling and cutting.



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The stock steering shaft was to short. I had one from a lifted jeep that fit better. I will also need the rear lift out of that jeep. In hindsight......it may be easier to start off with a lifted jeep. The metal bracket is a 3/8 conduit bracket used to support the end of the steering shaft. I also tied the web to the jeep body with some scrap plastic angle (left over from trimming). It had to much flex for my OCD to accept.

Here's the turnbuckle in the tierod.

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Here's a good look at the turnbuckles installed (from a different project).
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Here's a shot with the gearboxes and wheels.


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RICKYVB
Senior Modder

TAMPA
FLORIDA
USA

1265 Posts

Posted - 11/19/2009 :  21:02:08  Show Profile
Yes,more pictures of your garage...
I like the lift,too!!!
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Dylan13
Senior Modder

Oakmont
Pa



1113 Posts

Posted - 11/20/2009 :  09:02:09  Show Profile
lookin' good....project jeep is coming along pretty good as well

Super Power Gaucho
Peg Gaucho - John Deere Makeover
Peg Gaucho / Peg Gator / Peg Buck Quad
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Enforcer Jr. - 2WD Super 6 - 12v
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Artax
Journeyman Modder

Davenport
IA
USA



459 Posts

Posted - 11/20/2009 :  13:33:11  Show Profile
Looks good. Have you measured to see how different the wheel base width will be front to back? That seems like the on thing that ussually has to get wider with the 4x4 projects. On my quad it's about 1.5" wider in the front but I also used #7 gearboxes. I have been considering tearing apart the my extreme jeep front end and adding 4x4 but he hasn't even driven it yet so I keep thinking I should wait a while. Looking forward to seeing more progress.



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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 11/20/2009 :  14:23:42  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Artax

Looks good. Have you measured to see how different the wheel base width will be front to back? That seems like the on thing that ussually has to get wider with the 4x4 projects.



Thats why I used the toughloader steering set up. It's 32" total width with the wheels. It should be real close to the stock rear measurement.

Here's a front view so you can see the width.

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gseric69
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Red Lion
PA
USA



6315 Posts

Posted - 11/20/2009 :  14:42:25  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage




He sure is a happy lookin little feller

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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HLMDAD
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Apple Valley
Cali
USA



857 Posts

Posted - 11/20/2009 :  14:44:37  Show Profile  Visit HLMDAD's Homepage
man thats coming out sweet!

My wife said stop at 10... well 35 and counting.





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Divinar
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San Jose 95123
CA
USA



3057 Posts

Posted - 11/20/2009 :  15:05:48  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by gseric69


He sure is a happy lookin little feller



Well, sure - he's looking at Taz's wall


Escalade (Rubber tires, LED lights, Key switch, Remote Kill, wings. Wings?)
Lil Wrangler (2WD, 12v, Lights), Dora Jeep (Super-6 @ 12v, lights), Jeep Enforcer turned Aftershock (18v, WIP),
Grape Gaucho A151 (24v, scooter controller, WIP)
KFX Quad (Remote Kill), Crushmeister! (Silverado), Limited Edition Jeep (Stock)
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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 11/20/2009 :  15:07:51  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by gseric69



He sure is a happy lookin little feller



It was saved from the clutches of the garbage truck compactor....you'd be smilin' too.

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hotrodtodd
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Delhi
OH
USA



985 Posts

Posted - 11/20/2009 :  15:07:56  Show Profile  Visit hotrodtodd's Homepage
You keeping those loader tires on there? That looks pretty mean with them.Nice work,very slick idea there

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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 11/20/2009 :  15:17:43  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by hotrodtodd

You keeping those loader tires on there? That looks pretty mean with them.Nice work,very slick idea there



Yupper....those wheels get the credit for starting this whole idea way back. It started quite a snowball effect...eh? The wheels are very narrow which allows the gearboxes to sit in behind them.
I'm trying to do this without welding (since many members don't have access to a welder) The only welding so far could have been skipped(turnbuckles). I'm hoping any member on here can get a jeep and a skid steer and build this if they want. Trying to keep it to "trim and drill mods".

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MustangFreak
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San Antonio
Texas
USA



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Posted - 11/20/2009 :  15:22:26  Show Profile  Visit MustangFreak's Homepage  Send MustangFreak a Yahoo! Message
So you are trying to get more people to cut up tough loaders? You are a very evil man.

It is coming out nicely. It looks like a beast, a smiling one of course. Im sure if I lived in your garage, I would be smiling all the time too. I bet the Barbie Jeeps hate it though. Unless its been given a sex change like this one has.



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hotrodtodd
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Delhi
OH
USA



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Posted - 11/20/2009 :  15:34:09  Show Profile  Visit hotrodtodd's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Taz11

quote:
Originally posted by hotrodtodd

You keeping those loader tires on there? That looks pretty mean with them.Nice work,very slick idea there



Yupper....those wheels get the credit for starting this whole idea way back. It started quite a snowball effect...eh? The wheels are very narrow which allows the gearboxes to sit in behind them.
I'm trying to do this without welding (since many members don't have access to a welder) The only welding so far could have been skipped(turnbuckles). I'm hoping any member on here can get a jeep and a skid steer and build this if they want. Trying to keep it to "trim and drill mods".

Yeah thats a good idea,I guess I am going a little overboard on my 4wd project......................I really like the looks of those wheels!

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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 11/20/2009 :  15:38:43  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by FjCruiser

So you are trying to get more people to cut up tough loaders? You are a very evil man.

It is coming out nicely. It looks like a beast, a smiling one of course. Im sure if I lived in your garage, I would be smiling all the time too. I bet the Barbie Jeeps hate it though. Unless its been given a sex change like this one has.



This is a good project for those faded to death loaders.

How do you know Barbie Jeeps don't like other Barbie Jeeps?

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MustangFreak
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San Antonio
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USA



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Posted - 11/20/2009 :  15:39:33  Show Profile  Visit MustangFreak's Homepage  Send MustangFreak a Yahoo! Message
There is no such thing as going overboard in the world of Power Wheels modding.



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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 11/20/2009 :  16:38:43  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by hotrodtodd

Yeah thats a good idea,I guess I am going a little overboard on my 4wd project......................I really like the looks of those wheels!




I do OVERBOARD also!
http://www.modifiedpowerwheels.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12342

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hotrodtodd
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Delhi
OH
USA



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Posted - 11/20/2009 :  20:20:21  Show Profile  Visit hotrodtodd's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Taz11

quote:
Originally posted by hotrodtodd

Yeah thats a good idea,I guess I am going a little overboard on my 4wd project......................I really like the looks of those wheels!




I do OVERBOARD also!
http://www.modifiedpowerwheels.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12342

That a badass project too!......

Lifted Metal Frame JeepPower Drivers Trike
Bigfoot
Worksite Gator
Driveway Racer
Handy Manny 6v quad
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RICKYVB
Senior Modder

TAMPA
FLORIDA
USA

1265 Posts

Posted - 11/20/2009 :  22:31:36  Show Profile
Hmmm....
Cool looking jeep is blocking the wall.
Hmmm....
Your lucky that jeep is sweet looking and I have a Powerwheels fetish.

I like that it smiles too!
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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 11/23/2009 :  19:26:40  Show Profile
Still falling together....I didn't even have to drill holes for the motor wires.


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I'm using a junction block for the motor wires, again...R&D. It seems easier to take apart this way. The big ones are rated at 30amps so it should be ok. These gearboxes have the plastic pinions. I'm hoping the shared load will help them survive. If not, I have some metal pinions I can use. These where already out on the bench. I put some epoxy on the pinions to try to give them a fighting chance.

Here's the rear lift installed. I put a piece of 1x1x1/8 aluminum angle on each side along with an axle spacer. This brings the rear wheels out even with the front ones and eliminates the need to cut the rear tub to clear the gearboxes. The only cutting was a small notch to clear a pin anchor on the gearbox.


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Yup..decided to stick with the 19t #7s in the rear.


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I've been playing with a wire diagram for this.........Uggg my head hurts....but I think I've got it close.
I am going to run 2 12v batteries to make 24v. The right front and left rear will be in series. The left front and right rear will be in series(12v per motor). This diagnal set up should help prevent loss of traction on uneven ground. It's usually the diagnal tires that come off the ground....and with series wiring(needed for ease of steering)2 wheels off the ground is stuck.
Here's the tricky part.....I'm going to have a momentary switch(on the dash or maybe the steering wheel). When this switch is pressed, the batteries will switch to parallel(12v) and the motors will switch to parallel. The motors remain on 12v but all 4 wheels are now driving like "lockers". Ignore the labels on the motors. This diagram is still set up side to side instead of diagnal.



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Yeah, I know....my head hurts too. I have located some DPDT relays(thanks to Treebeme) to use in place of the double relay sets in the diagram. This set up will also allow me to go to 18/36v if needed.

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12vwiz
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Mobile
AL
USA



505 Posts

Posted - 11/23/2009 :  21:30:05  Show Profile
Taz11... the whole body mod looks great.
A well thought out plan coming together but the wiring layout is going to be the center fold.

Thanks for such a well documented build.

My first mod - john deer gator On Hold
Peg Gator LHR shifter Wiring diagram
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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2009 :  19:54:03  Show Profile
Sorry guys, it's been a little nuts here lately. I had a few minutes tonight to work on this. My relays came yesterday and the batteries should be here soon.

I remounted the bumper. I used the axle spacers from the Toughloader (cut to the proper length) to space out the bottom of the bumper.


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Heres what it looks like now that it has 4 wheels. I also removed those aweful flower stickers. I can deal with the pink, the flowers were a bit much. I swapped the white headlight grills for some yellow ones to match.


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Divinar
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San Jose 95123
CA
USA



3057 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2009 :  20:36:13  Show Profile
And only one shot of the "interesting wall"


Escalade (Rubber tires, LED lights, Key switch, Remote Kill, wings. Wings?)
Lil Wrangler (2WD, 12v, Lights), Dora Jeep (Super-6 @ 12v, lights), Jeep Enforcer turned Aftershock (18v, WIP),
Grape Gaucho A151 (24v, scooter controller, WIP)
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hotrodtodd
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Posted - 12/02/2009 :  15:00:20  Show Profile  Visit hotrodtodd's Homepage
I know who to lean on when it comes time to wire my 4wd project

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Taz11
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Posted - 12/02/2009 :  15:49:32  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by hotrodtodd

I know who to lean on when it comes time to wire my 4wd project



Simple....If your head doesn't hurt, you don't have wires/relays

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Posted - 12/02/2009 :  20:51:59  Show Profile
The first thing I did tonight was rework the first steering shaft bracket. The first one was too flimsy with the added load of the front gearboxes.

Here is the new one, still not sure about it...but its much better.


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Now the real madness starts. I mounted all the relays and started running wire.The relays are mounted with double sided foam tape. After the last wire I did, I realized that I forgot to run it through the fwd/rev switch. I decided it was time to stop for the night. Here's what I have so far.


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MustangFreak
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Wow, my head hurts just from looking at that. Looking good so far. No pics of the wall this time



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Taz11
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Posted - 12/03/2009 :  05:58:18  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by FjCruiser

Wow, my head hurts just from looking at that. Looking good so far. No pics of the wall this time



The wall never changes....you'd get bored if you saw it in every pic (And I'd get in trouble)



RUTT ROW! The forcast is calling for snow Sat and Tues night and again next Sunday. I better get movin' on this.

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Dylan13
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Oakmont
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Posted - 12/03/2009 :  09:56:29  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Taz11

RUTT ROW! The forcast is calling for snow Sat and Tues night and again next Sunday. I better get movin' on this.



Video, we need video in the snow

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Taz11
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Posted - 12/03/2009 :  12:04:27  Show Profile
Hopefully lots of video in all sorts of stuff! (except smoke and flames)

Update: Well, got 4" of fresh snow on the ground and this jeep is still "benched"

The flawless falling together came to a screeching halt this weekend. I guess I was due since it was going so smooth. It was just "one of those days". First I ran out of crimp connectors. I ran out and got some more, but they are a different brand. I was not happy with the way they crimped so I decided it was best to solder them and then insulate them with heatshrink. Well guess what... my heat shrink was too small to fit over the connector. so.... back out to Lowes and.....no heat shrink. Stoppped at the auto parts store......out of heat shrink. Went to Home Depot......They had it, but I had to buy 4 sizes that I didn't need to get the one that I did . I bought it anyway since the day was wasting away. I got home and plugged in my soldering gun and.......nothingRussafrusafrussa! Back to Lowes.....no soldering guns. I found one at Home Depot. This whole time my son keeps running into the shop saying "Daddy my Power Wheels keep gettting stuck in the snow!" (Just what I needed to help with my already declining patience)#%&*! Followed by "Mommy, Daddy's grumpy!"

Anyway.. come 10:00 last night (with a set of jumpers to work the throttle relay) All 4 wheels roared to life.

I'll get some pics soon. I still have to do all the control wiring.

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Edited by - Taz11 on 12/07/2009 11:05:33
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Taz11
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Posted - 12/07/2009 :  19:14:05  Show Profile
No work tonight, but I took a few pics of the progress. The batteries are 4 6v 12ah from Gruber Power. I stick 2 together with double sided foam tape and I end up with a 12v 12ah for the same price as 12v 10ah.


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Posted - 12/17/2009 :  18:41:54  Show Profile
It's been slow going with the Holidays and all that goes with them. My PW time has been reduced to a "few minutes of tinkering here and there" I finally got far enough to operate the motors with the gas and brake pedals. YIPPEE! I still have to wire in the locker button and the lights. I might do the lights later after some testing to make sure this is gonna work like I want it to.


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gseric69
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Posted - 12/17/2009 :  20:58:34  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
Man, I know what you mean about slow go this time of year. I feel like I'm so far behind in everything.

The Jeep is really coming out great.

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Taz11
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Posted - 12/18/2009 :  05:49:24  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by gseric69

Man, I know what you mean about slow go this time of year. I feel like I'm so far behind in everything.

The Jeep is really coming out great.



Thanks, It's supposed to snow tomorrow. I wont have lockers, but I can have it drivable in about 10 minutes

About the time issue......I still have to help Santa wrap all the loot That jolly old elf is getting lazy!


Update: I put the pedal cover and the seat on and threw it out in the snow! WAH HOO! There was about an inch of fresh snow.....20 minutes later there was about 2 1/2 inches! Holey moley, is it snowing! It got stuck once due to a motor wire popping off. (Darn 1/2 done projects!). While I soldered it back on my son went and got the Gaucho stuck.
I'll post the video when a get it up on youtube. I'll probably be trying to wire in the locker button all night. Its gonna need it, there calling for 6 to 12" by tomorrow.

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Edited by - Taz11 on 12/19/2009 15:54:42
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Taz11
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Posted - 12/20/2009 :  19:34:48  Show Profile
Here's some video from this weekends snowstorm. I was able to get the locker button hooked up for Sunday. It ran great in snow up to 6". Then the rear lift module started to drag in the snow. At about 8" it got stuck, but only required an occational push. A second pass in the old tire tracks was no problem.

Heres the link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42gGaq_4kvw

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Divinar
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Posted - 12/20/2009 :  20:07:56  Show Profile
Wow - makes me almost miss the snow... ALMOST!

I did have a question, though.

What is the advantage of running 24v and series vs just the "lockers" and 12v to each motor?
Seems to me that would be simpler, and then you could send 18v to each wheel (if the #3's could handle 18v).

Are you running Super6 motors, or normal motors?


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Grape Gaucho A151 (24v, scooter controller, WIP)
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Taz11
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Posted - 12/21/2009 :  06:07:28  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Divinar

Wow - makes me almost miss the snow... ALMOST!

I did have a question, though.

What is the advantage of running 24v and series vs just the "lockers" and 12v to each motor?
Seems to me that would be simpler, and then you could send 18v to each wheel (if the #3's could handle 18v).

Are you running Super6 motors, or normal motors?



I'm running stock 12v motors on 12v. Since it is a 2 seater, I wasn't sure the super6s would have enough torque.
It would be much easier to wire without the locker setup. What a PITA that was. The series set up makes it easier to drive since the steering can be tough with the gearboxes up front. With the motors fighting the driver...it just makes it worse. Of course, series is a fancy word for "stuck", so I decided to find a way to do booth.

It works great but added about $40 to the biuld for extra wire and relays. After the holidays I try to post an updated wire diagram since I changed it slightly.

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