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rollndice83
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Lansdale
PA
USA
849 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2009 : 08:23:06

Just started working on this today. The Blue light was missing and the LED was smashed off the circuit board. No hood for it yet either but plan to get new hood with shovel from Hobbymaster. Think i'm going to go 18V with this one and get fans and heat sinks for the motors.

This morning i soldered on a new red LED. I'm pretty sure the old LED was blue since the lens was blue but i have found a red lens that fits so i'm going with red now.

When 18V is to slow...Time to go to 50cc quads
88 Super 6Volt Corvette Project
90 Suzuki Quad Super6 on 12V
12V F-150
12V Suzuki 3-Wheeler(2WD Super6)Current Project
Lifted Fire Rescue Jeep(Upgrading to 21T 18V)
WildThing Super6 Volt
12V Harley(WIP)
Original 6V PW Hot Rod

Edited by - rollndice83 on 09/09/2009 07:40:44

DaddyFixit
Journeyman Modder

phoenix
az
USA

156 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2009 : 08:34:11

wow, 2 projects at one time. keeping busy. I wish it was cooler in my garage right now. My garage is like 110 degrees at night. I can only stand like 1/2 hr to an hr at a time. Wish i have spare rooms inside the house.

Escalade
2 Fire Rescue Jeeps
Ken's Beach Ranger (WIP)

rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2009 : 08:39:00

quote:
Originally posted by DaddyFixit

wow, 2 projects at one time. keeping busy. I wish it was cooler in my garage right now. My garage is like 110 degrees at night. I can only stand like 1/2 hr to an hr at a time. Wish i have spare rooms inside the house.

I have been out of work for a month now so if i don't keep my hands busy i go crazy

. It is very humid here right now but nowhere near 110*. I have a small a/c in my garage that keep it around 75* or else i might not be out there today.

DaddyFixit
Journeyman Modder

phoenix
az
USA

156 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2009 : 09:27:16

I don't think the wife would allow an A/c in out garage. Never really thought about it until now. Target is clearencing some out right now. she loves target just might convince her she'd be saving some money. :) 90* degrees would be better than 110*

Escalade
2 Fire Rescue Jeeps
Ken's Beach Ranger (WIP)

navaja77
Expert Modder

Prescott Vly
AZ
USA

681 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2009 : 10:13:47

quote:
Originally posted by DaddyFixit

I don't think the wife would allow an A/c in out garage. Never really thought about it until now. Target is clearencing some out right now. she loves target just might convince her she'd be saving some money. :) 90* degrees would be better than 110*

There's an A/C in my garage. It was put there by the previous owners. I'm guessing someone may have lived in the garage because there were NO tire marks on the concrete. Now there is because we actually park our vehicles inside.

I still managed to fit 6 PW's in there.

6V Lil Jeep
18V Fire Rescue Jeep (SOLD)
12V Barbie Jeep (Up for grabs, any takers?)
Super 6 Firerock (Up for grabs, any takers?)
12V-18V Lightning McQueen
12V Peg Perego Gator (SOLD)
12V Peg Perego John Deere Buck
12V Peg Perego Polaris 700 (gift to my nephew)
12V Peg Perego Gaucho Silver

rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2009 : 18:52:10

So i started putting the Jeep back together. The motor compartment under the seat was filled with leaves,pine needles, candy,toys...etc. from the original owner. I cleaned that up. Took the Gearboxes apart and greased them. Checked all the wiring and cleaned up the contacts. Here is some progress pictures. (And i added the water cannon with the hose and gun thanks to Taz!)

The nice piece of aluminum that the Jeep is resting on is what i do for a living. Replace aircraft skin.

DaddyFixit
Journeyman Modder

phoenix
az
USA

156 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2009 : 20:39:21

so you're telling me that there is a plane in the sky with a missing piece of skin.

Escalade
2 Fire Rescue Jeeps
Ken's Beach Ranger (WIP)

rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2009 : 21:24:04

quote:
Originally posted by DaddyFixit

so you're telling me that there is a plane in the sky with a missing piece of skin.

LOL..No! That was a demo piece that i made for a potential customer. But there was that recent SouthWest 737-300 that had a hole in the top tail section of the fuselage. But that is not the piece.

rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2009 : 21:25:38

I was playing around out in the garage and put the F-150 motor in place of the hood.

DaddyFixit
Journeyman Modder

phoenix
az
USA

156 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2009 : 10:10:34

quote:
Originally posted by rollndice83

I was playing around out in the garage and put the F-150 motor in place of the hood.

that could work. hard to see from the pic, but will the hood close?

Escalade
2 Fire Rescue Jeeps
Ken's Beach Ranger (WIP)

rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2009 : 04:43:24

I don't have a hood yet but im sure it won't clear. I was just thinking of using it in place of the hood. Or i could have it come up through the hood. Not sure yet. I took Tazs advice and moved the battery setup to under the seat. So not sure what to do with the front end yet...

rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2009 : 04:55:06

I have been busy the last few days but have finished up the battery compartment for the Jeep. I just did a real simple easy fix so that the battery cannot slide around. I took a piece of 1/2" foam board i had laying around. Cut it to size for under the seat..Then cut out the battery so it fits in nice and snug and the battery can't move. Thought this was the cleanest looking way to do it.

DaddyFixit
Journeyman Modder

phoenix
az
USA

156 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2009 : 17:36:23

I was freaking out when i first saw the pictures (had not yet read the post). did he just cut a hole into his new fire rescue? then obviously i read it. nice job. But seriously, that last picture really looks like you're looking thru the floor.

Escalade
2 Fire Rescue Jeeps
Ken's Beach Ranger (WIP)

Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ

3052 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2009 : 05:15:48

rollndice, you'll want to stick a hold down on that battery. You'd be amazed how many batteries I found upside down after a run before I figured that out. A wire coathanger works well. Bend a loop on each end and srew it down. There should be some existing screw holes you can use.

Drive it like you stole it!........out of somebody's garbage!

rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2009 : 05:07:37

I'm going to either use your idea with a coat hanger. Or use a small nylon strap. Will have some good video later of the Jeep in action. Only going to have it at 12V for now. Need to get a 6V 12AH before we step it to 18V.

rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2009 : 19:10:53

We had the Jeep out today and after some quick inclines my 4yr old son found a way to go straight up a hill vertically then lay it right on its back! He was laughing and not hurt but the torque in high gear+ the battery in the back now makes the front end pop up easy even on 12V. Time to put dual shoulder harness's in. And i already know by fall i will be doing the front end upgrade with aluminum plates. Here are some videos from today.

Edited by - rollndice83 on 08/10/2009 06:48:52

rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2009 : 19:21:07

The front right tire looks neat almost a foot in the air

rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2009 : 19:22:53

He decided after seeing a Peg with a winch in the front he wants me to put one on the front of the Jeep. I will have my work cut out for me

Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ

3052 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2009 : 09:15:45

Funny you should mention the back flip. I was home Thursday waiting for the plumbing inspector. My son had a play date with some friends. This one boy crashed into our mini quad with the fire rescue jeep and continued to stand on the throttle! He drove right up the quad and rolled it over on its back! He did a back summersalt out of the seat and went off to drive something else, leaving the jeep with its wheels in the air.

Drive it like you stole it!........out of somebody's garbage!

rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2009 : 12:26:41

LOL! That is funny. My son had the same problem. Instead of letting of the throttle he held it down. They have some decent torque. Only problem now is that he is hard on the front end so the one wheel is already starting to toe out.

rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2009 : 06:43:14

After a great weekend of around 9-10 hours of drive time on the Jeep my Son now says it is his favorite powerwheel. It does really decent climbing until the tires got muddy and wet then it started slipping trying to climb a small river rock hill. I found some problems this morning looking the Jeep over. In the pictures i posted of under the seat on the driver side where the cut-out is for the Gearbox you can notice a white stress line. After my son climbed in and out all weekend on that side it has developed into a small stress fracture almost 1/2" long. It seems to be caused by the rear tub of the Jeep pushing down against the outside edge of the lift kit. My only idea for a fix is to unbolt the rear portion of the lift kit and add rectangular aluminum plate to the bottom rear of the jeep tub to keep to keep that crack from getting any bigger and to take the flex out of the rear when he climbs in. And i was reading the FAQ Sag and Alignment section. Going to do a variation of two ideas from there. Besides that it's a great Jeep and will be even better when its toughened up.

Edited by - rollndice83 on 08/10/2009 06:44:53

Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ

3052 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2009 : 07:04:39

Before you add the angle, drill a 1/4 hole at the end of the crack. this should prevent further cracking. Then reinforce it.

Drive it like you stole it!........out of somebody's garbage!

rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2009 : 07:18:26

good idea the circle will eliminate the stress at one point. Should be a pretty easy fix. I just need to have a 1/4" aluminum plate cut then just drill holes for the lift kit bolts to go through. The front will be take longer.

rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2009 : 07:48:06

Took the Jeep all apart this week. After some heavy riding this past weekend i knew that the sag in the front tires would only get worse and the right front tire was toe-out and causing poor steering on cement. The other problem i noticed was that in the rear of the Jeep tub by the left gearbox a stress crack was starting to form from my son standing on the side when getting in. All the weight gets directed right at the corner point where the rear lift meets the tub. So i'm doing all the fixes and adding a winch to the front at my sons request.

Here some damage pictures.

I'm going to reinforce it on the bottom with aluminum angle and might drill holes and shoot heavy duty aluminum rivets.

You can see in this picture that on the right side front steering axle points the tire toe-out. The rivet is just getting loose so i'm going to take it out and replace it with a stud,washer and bolt. Going to use two aluminum plates and a U-bolt to fix the axle flexing on the white steering block.

Here is the winch i made inside the hood compartment. I'm going to run it off a small 6V 4ah battery because with 12V the motor spins to fast and has to much power. I'm going to add a push button switch so the winch when work when he presses the button but will stop as soon as he lets off. Here is a pic of where i am mounting it. Its mounted in the best place for pulling power and i can run the winch line and hook out the front bumper.

This will keep me busy most of the weekend and along with the adding the winch into the Jeep and doing the wiring i have enough work. Plus i need time to go and look for more toys!! It is almost Trash time

Edited by - rollndice83 on 08/14/2009 07:49:33

rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2009 : 07:50:46

rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2009 : 09:53:10

I'm off to the hardware store with a list a mile long and a handful of pieces i'm bringing with me. I know once i get there i will get side tracked...end up buying stuff i really don't need and forgetting all the important parts

Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ

3052 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2009 : 11:04:53

HMMMMMM....sounds familiar. Awesome start to the winch, don't forget to child proof it. My kids have already turned a jeep hood into a health risk!

Drive it like you stole it!........out of somebody's garbage!

Edited by - Taz11 on 08/14/2009 17:46:20

rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2009 : 15:40:18

I'm going to put a cover over it. I'm finishing up mounting it now. Do you still have a hood/latches for the Jeep?

Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ

3052 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2009 : 15:50:50

I still have the hood. I'll have to check on the latches, they don't last very long around here.

UPDATE : No hood latches, sorry.

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Drive it like you stole it!........out of somebody's garbage!

Edited by - Taz11 on 08/14/2009 17:48:33

rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2009 : 17:11:16

No problem. I'm not putting it back together for awhile. Working on the front end mods, Tore out the rivets on the cross bar and replaced with steel bolt and nut. It removed all the play from the rivet bending. I put stainless still U Bolts and steel plates on the white steering blocks and it holds the axle perfect. It is a major improvement already. I also picked up some 7/16" shaft collars for the top of the axle. Just have the make up a plate with a 7/16" hole the mount on top of front lift module. Be burning the oil tonight......

ecoclean
Senior Modder

coopersburg
pa
USA

1179 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2009 : 18:31:52

nice work on cleaning it up and tightening the steering. When is trash day, i may have to beat you to a few of them ;)

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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ

3052 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2009 : 19:22:12

OOOOOOH

! Thems is fightin words! LOL

Drive it like you stole it!........out of somebody's garbage!

rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2009 : 19:59:14

quote:
Originally posted by ecoclean

nice work on cleaning it up and tightening the steering. When is trash day, i may have to beat you to a few of them ;)

That would be like giving up all my fishing spots

Taz i will let you know about the hood. I can get latches from Alan. Thanks

ecoclean
Senior Modder

coopersburg
pa
USA

1179 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2009 : 21:48:41

I was just kidding. I know what you mean about fishing spots. I worked at a car dealer and we found a map of a certain local lake in a used car trade in we were cleaning out. It has probably 40 different spots marked with lures, time of day, season, etc...someone is curely kicking themselves in the ass for not taking it with them.

ecoclean
Senior Modder

coopersburg
pa
USA

1179 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2009 : 21:51:42

quote:
Originally posted by Taz11

OOOOOOH! Thems is fightin words! LOL

Quiet taz, you made that young couple steal the power wheels from the house that was vacant with your "signature" Drive it like you stole it........out of someones garage. Oh yeah, I'll be in you area tomorrow getting an extreme machine, you better look out too :)

Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ

3052 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2009 : 03:55:18

Get your glasses out......GARBAGE not GARAGE.

Drive it like you stole it!........out of somebody's garbage!

Edited by - Taz11 on 08/15/2009 04:06:28

rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2009 : 08:19:01

ecoclean- did you keep the map? I don't have anything that sacred when it comes to spots. Lake Nockamixon is a nice spot and is close to NJ

Taz- That is some funny sh*t! Garbage not Garage...LOL I would be pissed if someone walked by my garage when the doors open and took all the PowerWheels. What the hell would i do with myself if someone stole my projects??

This morning i put the front steering assembly back on and what a difference! Even better than putting plates and UBolts over the axles was ripping those junk aluminum rivets out where the cross support meets the white axle block. Before with the rivets there was so much play. I replaced them with a stainless bolt and a few washers and nut and its like butter. Still have plenty to do with the winch and reinforcing the back end. Have to go to Delaware for the day so won't get much done until later tonight when i get back. But its a nice long drive and i'll be looking for rides the whole trip.

Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ

3052 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2009 : 08:35:25

GOOD LUCK

Drive it like you stole it!........out of somebody's garbage!

ecoclean
Senior Modder

coopersburg
pa
USA

1179 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2009 : 13:30:50

Rollndice: i did not, the used car tech would not part with it and keeps it locked in his tool box. It was for Nockamixon though. It was one of the older maps, big 3'x3'.

Taz: no **** it does say garbage not garage.....my bad ;(

rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2009 : 16:02:05

Just got back from Delaware and nothing. Tomorrow i will check around my local area for anything in the trash, Usually a lot of yard sales and sometimes left overs go out to the trash. The garage is around 100* so i just opened it up for the night. Might get some work done later when it cools off...

Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ

3052 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2009 : 17:16:34

Ecoclean... what dealership did you work for. I worked for A&T several years back.

Rollndice.. I hear ya on the heat. I was running wires in my attic today

. I think I lost 20 pounds of water weight.

Drive it like you stole it!........out of somebody's garbage!

Edited by - Taz11 on 08/15/2009 17:18:15

rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2009 : 18:34:47

Attics are the worst place to be in the summer...not to mention a humid hot day. I use to do hvac and we always had to work in the attic in the summer running duct and fixing indoor units. Going out to drive up and down the alleys to see what i find..I found a cool Tyco Bat mobile R/C monster truck today in the trash,has a remote but no battery. i have a 9.6v battery so i put it in and works great...not a powerwheel but a good find none the less. I need to get lucky like you and come across a caterpillar powerwheel

ecoclean
Senior Modder

coopersburg
pa
USA

1179 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2009 : 23:36:46

Taz: lets see, first it was Scheitauer Chevy, Goodyear in doylestown, then Keenan Honda then North Penn Mazda. I used to work for a plumbing company as well, i hated doing new rough in's in the attic.

Rollndice: Sorry for getting this thread so off topic. I went out last thursday for Perkasie's trash day and found an old Beach Ranger Metal Frame Jeep, no batt or charger and vinyl top was shredded. The seat belts were so dry that i pulled them off just trying to latch them. Now post some pics so we can get back on topic damn it :)

rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2009 : 07:59:43

Eco- Perk is only 10 minutes north of here. Sucks when you find something so beat up but you don't want someone else taking it either.

OK Back to the project. Last night nothing got accomplished.A good buddy came over last night so we put the winch to the test. He sat on a computer chair and it pulled him 30FT down to alley with it no problem(Hes around 200lbs). I have not found an easy cost effective solution for the back tub that i like. With out a welder i'm not liking the options.... i wont it to be strong but not like a tank. I will have some pictures up soon eco

ecoclean
Senior Modder

coopersburg
pa
USA

1179 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2009 : 09:45:21

could you use light aluminum tubing and make a frame that runs under neath the body like the older metal frame jeeps. That way you could bolt the winch to it. Or for weight you could use schedule 80 pvc, 660+lb tensil strength.

rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2009 : 10:42:54

I could but i don't need it to be that strong. Just need to address the one spot where all the weight is concentrated to on the bottom of the body and distribute it more evenly across the compartment. The way the lift kit was designed it cuts right into the body and cracks it from stress. I just finished putting the shaft collars on the front steering and put a tire on the check it out. The difference is amazing...No more wobble or loose connections. My camera is charging then i will post some pics. It cost me about $25 in hardware for the front but its all stainless steel. I scraped putting the top plate on the front lift module...I didn't see it really necessary. The gain from doing it to me is very little. The front is now rock solid...and was simple to do. My son just wants it back together lol. It makes it tough when you want to go all out on it and take your time but the kid just want's it done..But then again he is the one driving it. I need to start working on a ride that i can chase him around in.

rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2009 : 18:52:54

Here's some shots of the front steering assembly with the added stainless steel U-Bolts with steel plate. Replaced top axle push nuts with stainless 7/16 shaft collars and removed aluminum rivets from crossbar and replaced with new hardware that is stronger that removed all the free play the steering had..The rivets where worn out and stretched allowing the wheels to toe out. Adding the U-Bolts also eliminated all sag out of the front wheels. I will post pics when its all back together.

Below is the steering before mods. Notice how the passenger side axle sags down. The worn rivets were the main cause of this.

Here is after the mod.Much stronger and the wheels will stay straight now

This is where i replaced the aluminum rivet. Replaced with stainless sleeved bolt that fits perfect.

I have the back tires off but i threw the front wheels on and set the Jeep down and put weight on the front. The steering is stiffer and the wheels sit perfect with no more sagging. For only $22 in hardware i am happy with the results.

ecoclean
Senior Modder

coopersburg
pa
USA

1179 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2009 : 08:29:33

nice work rolln, and good job with the close up of the pictures. i am going to use that mod on our jeep, thanks.

ecoclean
Senior Modder

coopersburg
pa
USA

1179 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2009 : 23:16:14

rolln, did you put the frt tires back on yet? What did/are you going to use to lock them on? Collar shafts or push nuts w/caps? Reason i ask is home depot and ace near me had neither, only ace had chrome push nuts for 3.00 each. Where did you find your stuff meaning lansdale thanks

Never_Too_Young
New Member

Pipersville
PA
USA
9 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2009 : 06:51:43

Guys, if you ever need something welded just let me know. I have both a large mig and tig welder in the shop if you ever need something done. You guys all live in the area so the drive won't be an issue.

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rollndice83
Expert Modder

Lansdale
PA
USA

849 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2009 : 07:22:50

Eco- I went to Ace also. The Shaft collar cost about 2.20 i think. I am going to use shaft collars on the wheels too. Just so i can take the wheels off and put them back on easy.

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