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Divinar
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San Jose 95123
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3057 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2009 :  16:25:26  Show Profile
I just spent a two hour lunch break getting a $30 Lil Wrangler.

It doesn't go, but I could feel the difference in the gearbox when the switch was pressed, so I suspect a dead battery/connection.

Once I find out what type of gearbox (3A or 3B) I'll be converting it to 12v and 2WD, and of course adding LED lights front and rear. This one is for the little guy (14 months old) so I'll have a little time to finish the project.


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Escalade (Rubber tires, LED lights, Key switch, Remote Kill, wings. Wings?)
Lil Wrangler (2WD, 12v, Lights), Dora Jeep (Super-6 @ 12v, lights), Jeep Enforcer turned Aftershock (18v, WIP),
Grape Gaucho A151 (24v, scooter controller, WIP)
KFX Quad (Remote Kill), Crushmeister! (Silverado), Limited Edition Jeep (Stock)
Kawasaki Mojave 250 (Stock), PP Gator (Lights), Home Depot Loader, Lightning McQueen (Stock)

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treebeme
Advanced Modder

Holtsville
NY
USA



3209 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2009 :  16:29:59  Show Profile
Mod 1, install a second gearbox.

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Screamin Demon (600 watt scooter motor, 36v scooter controller)
Red Harley (trike, 24v scooter controller, 13t MFJ gearboxes/motors)
KFX Quad (24v scooter controller, MFJ 12t gearboxes/motors)
Fire Rescue Jeep (24v scooter controller, 15t #7 gearboxes/motors)
Franken(berry)beast (24v scooter controller, 2-250Watt Scooter motors)
Grave Digger (21T gearboxes)
Super Shock
Razor MX-350 Motorcycle

Projects
--------
Jeep Wrangler (on hold)
Barbie Cruzin Tunes Jeep (24v scooter controller)
TCV Indy Racer (24v scooter controller)
Gator (on hold)
Silverado Dragster (on hold)
Apache (on hold)
Metal big wheel (24v scooter controller)
Jeep Aftershock
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Divinar
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San Jose 95123
CA
USA



3057 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2009 :  16:34:30  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by treebeme

Mod 1, install a second gearbox.



That's why I need to find what kind it has... (I should make that clearer)


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Lil Wrangler (2WD, 12v, Lights), Dora Jeep (Super-6 @ 12v, lights), Jeep Enforcer turned Aftershock (18v, WIP),
Grape Gaucho A151 (24v, scooter controller, WIP)
KFX Quad (Remote Kill), Crushmeister! (Silverado), Limited Edition Jeep (Stock)
Kawasaki Mojave 250 (Stock), PP Gator (Lights), Home Depot Loader, Lightning McQueen (Stock)
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gseric69
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Red Lion
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6315 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2009 :  18:18:56  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
Unless it's been modified it has a 3A gearbox.

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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Divinar
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San Jose 95123
CA
USA



3057 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2009 :  18:41:15  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by gseric69

Unless it's been modified it has a 3A gearbox.



The final gear is round, and according to the "Definitive Gearbox Thread", that makes it the 3A.

So, I guess I'm posting a WTB for a 3A gearbox, motor, and old style driver, shipped to 95111?

The battery is plugged into a charger, so we'll see if it will take a charge.


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Lil Wrangler (2WD, 12v, Lights), Dora Jeep (Super-6 @ 12v, lights), Jeep Enforcer turned Aftershock (18v, WIP),
Grape Gaucho A151 (24v, scooter controller, WIP)
KFX Quad (Remote Kill), Crushmeister! (Silverado), Limited Edition Jeep (Stock)
Kawasaki Mojave 250 (Stock), PP Gator (Lights), Home Depot Loader, Lightning McQueen (Stock)
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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2009 :  18:54:27  Show Profile
You could always put in a set of 3b boxes in there. They seem to be easier to find. The 12v battery will more than compensate for the slight change in gearing.

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Divinar
Moderator

San Jose 95123
CA
USA



3057 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2009 :  18:54:29  Show Profile
A question about batteries - I notice that most of the 12v conversions use two batteries, laid flat across the old battery hole under the hood.

What batteries are they?

Is this just the simplest way independently invented by a dozen modders?

If I was to run the two motors in series, like low mode, would the 12v batteries last longer than a 6v running both motors in parallel?



Escalade (Rubber tires, LED lights, Key switch, Remote Kill, wings. Wings?)
Lil Wrangler (2WD, 12v, Lights), Dora Jeep (Super-6 @ 12v, lights), Jeep Enforcer turned Aftershock (18v, WIP),
Grape Gaucho A151 (24v, scooter controller, WIP)
KFX Quad (Remote Kill), Crushmeister! (Silverado), Limited Edition Jeep (Stock)
Kawasaki Mojave 250 (Stock), PP Gator (Lights), Home Depot Loader, Lightning McQueen (Stock)
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treebeme
Advanced Modder

Holtsville
NY
USA



3209 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2009 :  19:05:02  Show Profile
As for the batteries, the best guide is to get out a ruler. You can run one 12v or two 6v (in series) to get your 12v.

If you need a low mode, I strongly suggest that you run two 6v batteries in parallel with the motors running in parallel. You get much better traction out of the motors when they are run in parallel than you do when they are in serial. I'm not sure which method gets better battery life but the traction issue pretty much overrides that. Then, when the kid is ready you can run the batteries in serial.

------------------------------------------------
Screamin Demon (600 watt scooter motor, 36v scooter controller)
Red Harley (trike, 24v scooter controller, 13t MFJ gearboxes/motors)
KFX Quad (24v scooter controller, MFJ 12t gearboxes/motors)
Fire Rescue Jeep (24v scooter controller, 15t #7 gearboxes/motors)
Franken(berry)beast (24v scooter controller, 2-250Watt Scooter motors)
Grave Digger (21T gearboxes)
Super Shock
Razor MX-350 Motorcycle

Projects
--------
Jeep Wrangler (on hold)
Barbie Cruzin Tunes Jeep (24v scooter controller)
TCV Indy Racer (24v scooter controller)
Gator (on hold)
Silverado Dragster (on hold)
Apache (on hold)
Metal big wheel (24v scooter controller)
Jeep Aftershock
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gseric69
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Red Lion
PA
USA



6315 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2009 :  19:28:46  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
I think I may have everything you need (wheel driver, 3A gearbox and motor). I'll check in the morning.

I used two 6V 12AH Gruber batteries on my Lil Jeep. I like that in low speed the batteries are in parallel but the motors stay in parallel too so the wheels always have "posi-traction"

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2009 :  19:30:20  Show Profile
Run time depends on the ah rating (amp hour) on the battery(s). The higher the ah rating, the more run time you will have.

I have a single 12v 10ah battery stuffed on its side in the stock location. I would also recommend adding a high/low switch.


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Divinar
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San Jose 95123
CA
USA



3057 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2009 :  21:13:08  Show Profile
Has anyone sucessfully put in the high-low-reverse lever from a larger PW?
If so, how was it wired, and where was it bolted in?


Escalade (Rubber tires, LED lights, Key switch, Remote Kill, wings. Wings?)
Lil Wrangler (2WD, 12v, Lights), Dora Jeep (Super-6 @ 12v, lights), Jeep Enforcer turned Aftershock (18v, WIP),
Grape Gaucho A151 (24v, scooter controller, WIP)
KFX Quad (Remote Kill), Crushmeister! (Silverado), Limited Edition Jeep (Stock)
Kawasaki Mojave 250 (Stock), PP Gator (Lights), Home Depot Loader, Lightning McQueen (Stock)
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gseric69
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Red Lion
PA
USA



6315 Posts

Posted - 07/08/2009 :  04:52:30  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
I think it was Joey72 that put a shifter in the center of the floor, and there was someone else that put one in the dash where the fake shifter is. Both ways took a lot of cutting to make them fit, but it is possible. If you search on Lil Jeep or Junior Jeep you'll see lots of them and the different ways they've been built up.

The shifter is basically just a fancy case that has a High/Low and Forward/Reverse switch in it. It's not wired any differently. I just uses a lever moved by the shifter handle to throw the switches instead of you using your fingers to throw the switches.

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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Divinar
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San Jose 95123
CA
USA



3057 Posts

Posted - 07/08/2009 :  08:05:23  Show Profile
I like the shifer because it eliminates the high-speed reverse...


Escalade (Rubber tires, LED lights, Key switch, Remote Kill, wings. Wings?)
Lil Wrangler (2WD, 12v, Lights), Dora Jeep (Super-6 @ 12v, lights), Jeep Enforcer turned Aftershock (18v, WIP),
Grape Gaucho A151 (24v, scooter controller, WIP)
KFX Quad (Remote Kill), Crushmeister! (Silverado), Limited Edition Jeep (Stock)
Kawasaki Mojave 250 (Stock), PP Gator (Lights), Home Depot Loader, Lightning McQueen (Stock)
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gseric69
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Red Lion
PA
USA



6315 Posts

Posted - 07/08/2009 :  08:26:14  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
You can do the same with just 2 switches too (thats all the shifter is really), if you didn't want to mess with cutting out a large space with it. sdubb mounted a High/Low switch next to the existing F/R switch. I mounted the High/Low switch for mine on the Dash, but it was kind of a pain.

Just use the diagram show on the left here to wire it up with two 6V batteries with a High/Low switch. Wiring would also be the same if you do decide to use a shifter.

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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Divinar
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San Jose 95123
CA
USA



3057 Posts

Posted - 07/08/2009 :  11:05:11  Show Profile
Update It lives!
Well, sorta.
I'd left the battery on charge all night, then when I connected it this morning, it ran!

So maybe the previous owner was plugging the charger into a dead socket?

Or maybe my wiggling the wires and pulling off the switches (to jump the motor) last night worked some corrosion off it.


Escalade (Rubber tires, LED lights, Key switch, Remote Kill, wings. Wings?)
Lil Wrangler (2WD, 12v, Lights), Dora Jeep (Super-6 @ 12v, lights), Jeep Enforcer turned Aftershock (18v, WIP),
Grape Gaucho A151 (24v, scooter controller, WIP)
KFX Quad (Remote Kill), Crushmeister! (Silverado), Limited Edition Jeep (Stock)
Kawasaki Mojave 250 (Stock), PP Gator (Lights), Home Depot Loader, Lightning McQueen (Stock)
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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 07/08/2009 :  11:57:24  Show Profile
You gotta love when the wheels spin on a cheap/free PW for the first time. Makes my day!

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gseric69
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Red Lion
PA
USA



6315 Posts

Posted - 07/08/2009 :  12:11:26  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
Here are some photos for inspiration

sdubb mounted the H/L switch next to the existing F/R one

http://www.modifiedpowerwheels.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7409

larsonator replaced the fake shifter with a real one in the dash. As you can see he had to cut all the way through to the battery comparment under the hood.


http://www.modifiedpowerwheels.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5045

joey72 added a shifter to the floor center. Lot of cutting needed again.


http://www.modifiedpowerwheels.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3547

And finally, I added a H/L switch to the dash and left the F/R in the stock location. The switch in that dash location actually took a lot of cutting as well, so I wouldn't recommend it.



36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)

Edited by - gseric69 on 07/08/2009 12:17:20
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sdubb
Senior Modder






1661 Posts

Posted - 07/08/2009 :  12:56:48  Show Profile
I am going to make a statement on this. Mine seems to have been the easiest as far as wiring and cutting. The only problems with my kids and this setup is they get confused on which switch does what. I would think this can be helped out by using 2 different colored switches I think kids do great with colors. I am about to the point of just covering it up OR putting in jumper wires so its always in HIGH.

"Time to take a ride on the information superhighway."
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Divinar
Moderator

San Jose 95123
CA
USA



3057 Posts

Posted - 07/08/2009 :  14:49:32  Show Profile
Wow.
I think that I may install the second gearbox, and then leave it at 12v... or maybe put a big switch under the hood to switch between 12 and 6 for when the little guy is driving it.

I know JD doesn't use low in his Esca-jeep anymore anyway - except to annoy Daddy when I'm riding my bike behind him...

I really like the look of the shifter on the dash - but JD would be mad that it doesn't have a Park at the top, then backwards, then forwards, like Daddy's....


Escalade (Rubber tires, LED lights, Key switch, Remote Kill, wings. Wings?)
Lil Wrangler (2WD, 12v, Lights), Dora Jeep (Super-6 @ 12v, lights), Jeep Enforcer turned Aftershock (18v, WIP),
Grape Gaucho A151 (24v, scooter controller, WIP)
KFX Quad (Remote Kill), Crushmeister! (Silverado), Limited Edition Jeep (Stock)
Kawasaki Mojave 250 (Stock), PP Gator (Lights), Home Depot Loader, Lightning McQueen (Stock)
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Divinar
Moderator

San Jose 95123
CA
USA



3057 Posts

Posted - 07/08/2009 :  20:39:37  Show Profile
The all night charge didn't move it 20 feet with a 38 pound boy driving :-(
But it shows me that the motor and switches are working...

Now to order the new batteries.... maybe next paycheck...


Escalade (Rubber tires, LED lights, Key switch, Remote Kill, wings. Wings?)
Lil Wrangler (2WD, 12v, Lights), Dora Jeep (Super-6 @ 12v, lights), Jeep Enforcer turned Aftershock (18v, WIP),
Grape Gaucho A151 (24v, scooter controller, WIP)
KFX Quad (Remote Kill), Crushmeister! (Silverado), Limited Edition Jeep (Stock)
Kawasaki Mojave 250 (Stock), PP Gator (Lights), Home Depot Loader, Lightning McQueen (Stock)
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Divinar
Moderator

San Jose 95123
CA
USA



3057 Posts

Posted - 07/09/2009 :  17:54:30  Show Profile
I was bored at work today, while printing a large file, and started playing with wiring diagrams.

I can't believe this, but I think I came up with a hi-lo switch layout that DOESN'T put the motors in series, but does put the BATTERIES in series or parallel.

Using a standard DPDT switch...


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Can it be this simple?



Escalade (Rubber tires, LED lights, Key switch, Remote Kill, wings. Wings?)
Lil Wrangler (2WD, 12v, Lights), Dora Jeep (Super-6 @ 12v, lights), Jeep Enforcer turned Aftershock (18v, WIP),
Grape Gaucho A151 (24v, scooter controller, WIP)
KFX Quad (Remote Kill), Crushmeister! (Silverado), Limited Edition Jeep (Stock)
Kawasaki Mojave 250 (Stock), PP Gator (Lights), Home Depot Loader, Lightning McQueen (Stock)
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Taz11
Advanced Modder

Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ



3739 Posts

Posted - 07/09/2009 :  18:43:09  Show Profile
That looks correct. It is pretty simple if you can put it on paper. When I try to do it in my head it makes my head spin.

I put my high/low switch on the dash to stop the confusion mentioned above. My daughter is forever crashing into things with her Harley. The switches(stock) are right next to each other and she gets confused. Trying to put it in high she will back up instead.

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No cutting required on the body, but you will have to fab. a dash panel.


Hey gseric69, Never noticed your little jeep in detail. Looks like a quality job. Very clean.

Drive it like you stole it!........out of somebody's garbage!

Edited by - Taz11 on 07/09/2009 18:46:21
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swhenrik
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Pengilly
MN
USA



4067 Posts

Posted - 07/14/2009 :  16:00:02  Show Profile  Visit swhenrik's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Divinar

I was bored at work today, while printing a large file, and started playing with wiring diagrams.

I can't believe this, but I think I came up with a hi-lo switch layout that DOESN'T put the motors in series, but does put the BATTERIES in series or parallel.

Using a standard DPDT switch...

Can it be this simple?



Yes, this is how Power Wheels does it on the dual 6 volt battery models. The only difference, is that they jumper the 2 bottom pins together instead of jumpering from the middle right pin to the lower left pin. Both do the same thing, except PW's method counts on 2 sets of contacts. These diagrams are in the FAQ's.

Projects: Jeep, Bigfoot, Lil' Quad, Dora Quad, Dirt Grinder, Nascar, Intro, Ultimate Gaucho
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Divinar
Moderator

San Jose 95123
CA
USA



3057 Posts

Posted - 07/14/2009 :  16:17:17  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by swhenrik


Yes, this is how Power Wheels does it on the dual 6 volt battery models. The only difference, is that they jumper the 2 bottom pins together instead of jumpering from the middle right pin to the lower left pin. Both do the same thing, except PW's method counts on 2 sets of contacts. These diagrams are in the FAQ's.



THAT'S what I couldn't figure out - why mine had nothing to the last pin!



Escalade (Rubber tires, LED lights, Key switch, Remote Kill, wings. Wings?)
Lil Wrangler (2WD, 12v, Lights), Dora Jeep (Super-6 @ 12v, lights), Jeep Enforcer turned Aftershock (18v, WIP),
Grape Gaucho A151 (24v, scooter controller, WIP)
KFX Quad (Remote Kill), Crushmeister! (Silverado), Limited Edition Jeep (Stock)
Kawasaki Mojave 250 (Stock), PP Gator (Lights), Home Depot Loader, Lightning McQueen (Stock)
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Divinar
Moderator

San Jose 95123
CA
USA



3057 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2009 :  13:20:58  Show Profile
Welcome to Batteries 101

We've already learned not to use Motorcycle or Car batteries in our Power Wheels.

Today we learn another rule:

ALWAYS put the fuse FIRST.
Even between batteries.

And if you want to switch the batteries from series to parallel, you can't have a separate series tap connected to provide 12v for the headlights.

And while we know the stock wires in the 6v jeeps are thin and melty, even 10 gauge wire can get melty!

No pictures, and I think I can salvage all the switches and plugs.

But since I do want to light it up, I'll have to make it 12v, with a too-fast reverse...


Escalade (Rubber tires, LED lights, Key switch, Remote Kill, wings. Wings?)
Lil Wrangler (2WD, 12v, Lights), Dora Jeep (Super-6 @ 12v, lights), Jeep Enforcer turned Aftershock (18v, WIP),
Grape Gaucho A151 (24v, scooter controller, WIP)
KFX Quad (Remote Kill), Crushmeister! (Silverado), Limited Edition Jeep (Stock)
Kawasaki Mojave 250 (Stock), PP Gator (Lights), Home Depot Loader, Lightning McQueen (Stock)
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treebeme
Advanced Modder

Holtsville
NY
USA



3209 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2009 :  14:05:47  Show Profile
The stock PW batteries had the breakers built into them so they always had protection whether the batteries were in series or parallel. If using aftermarket batteries and you want to switch the batteries between parallel and serial, yes, you need to use two circuit breakers (just put on pos of each battery).

And no, you can't run two batteries serial and parallel at the same exact time. I can imagine the flaming fun of doing such a thing.

------------------------------------------------
Screamin Demon (600 watt scooter motor, 36v scooter controller)
Red Harley (trike, 24v scooter controller, 13t MFJ gearboxes/motors)
KFX Quad (24v scooter controller, MFJ 12t gearboxes/motors)
Fire Rescue Jeep (24v scooter controller, 15t #7 gearboxes/motors)
Franken(berry)beast (24v scooter controller, 2-250Watt Scooter motors)
Grave Digger (21T gearboxes)
Super Shock
Razor MX-350 Motorcycle

Projects
--------
Jeep Wrangler (on hold)
Barbie Cruzin Tunes Jeep (24v scooter controller)
TCV Indy Racer (24v scooter controller)
Gator (on hold)
Silverado Dragster (on hold)
Apache (on hold)
Metal big wheel (24v scooter controller)
Jeep Aftershock
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gseric69
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Red Lion
PA
USA



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Posted - 07/21/2009 :  16:22:34  Show Profile  Visit gseric69's Homepage
You could do what CJB did and get a small 12V like 4 or 5AH just for lights and stick it down in the battery hole. Then use two 6V 12AH batteries laid across the top for the motors.

36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho, SOLD!)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted)
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Divinar
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San Jose 95123
CA
USA



3057 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2009 :  16:44:33  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by treebeme

And no, you can't run two batteries serial and parallel at the same exact time. I can imagine the flaming fun of doing such a thing.



Sure, it's obvious NOW

To be honest, I should have realized it, but I'd wired up the hi/low switch under the hood (Daddy would change it depending on the driver) and went to tap off the light circuit. And since it was in high at the time, everything tested fine... until I flipped to low

I think I'll be replacing ALL the wires, just to be consistent...


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Posted - 07/22/2009 :  20:58:30  Show Profile
Well, I did a quick splice and crimp job to the remains of the stock wiring, and even at 6v the second gearbox makes a noticeable difference in speed - not to mention traction!

I can't wait to try 12v!


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Posted - 06/14/2010 :  12:04:12  Show Profile
I can't believe it's been almost a year since I posted on this one.

Following my wire meltdown, I replaced the entice harness with one from a donor (can't remember who, now, sorry) and for a while left it 6v, for the little guy.

I have to secure these wires a little better:

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Since Mikey is now driving the big Jeep when he can, I put the 12v battery in, and added lights. Nothing too original:


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We'll probably upgrade to a set of Super-6 motors and wires soon.


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Posted - 06/14/2010 :  14:00:26  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Divinar



We'll probably upgrade to a set of Super-6 motors and wires soon.




Oh yes....must do You might have to stick a screw in the traction bands too

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Posted - 06/14/2010 :  14:22:23  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Taz11

quote:
Originally posted by Divinar



We'll probably upgrade to a set of Super-6 motors and wires soon.




Oh yes....must do You might have to stick a screw in the traction bands too



I'm buying the Super-6 motors now, but the driver is only 2 years old - He just figured out the steering wheel last month!


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Posted - 07/10/2010 :  12:30:33  Show Profile
HOLY CRAP!

Mikey ripped the wires off one motor last night, reducing it to one wheel drive, and making him very unhappy since it would get stuck in the grass.

So, I figured it was time to upgrade to the Super6 motors I'd gotten from NSAELLIS.

I'd noticed that the wiring on the Dora Jeep was a lot thicker than the wiring on the Lil Jeep, so I bought the whole wiring harness, too.



The wires from the shifter to the motors were just barely long enough.



I cut the wires a few inches past the pedal connector, and ran them up to the relay on the top, or the #10 bolts peeking through the bottom.



The leads from the battery go to ring terminals on the #10 bolts, then reappear to the relay (I wanted to mount it below, but it didn't fit right.)



And this is just a chunk of a pool noodle - Mikey needed the padding, he keeps hitting his head on the bar now!



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Posted - 07/13/2010 :  21:36:33  Show Profile
Turned off the flash, and got a few pictures tonight


(That wall/fence is about 20' in front of the Jeep's nose)





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Nice lighting...i like the noodle on rowbar, I though about that and bumper pads b4. nice work. While I am here Divinar Do you have the red gear from A151. I am in need.

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I think I may do these same things to my daughter's Barbie Blitz Lil Wrangler. She is only 1 year and 9 months old now and has learned how to steer using handlebars and a steering wheel within the last month. I'm really impressed that she is able to do that so young.


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Posted - 11/18/2010 :  13:59:10  Show Profile
So I just converted a lil jeep to 2wd, but I needed a longer axle to make it work? Is this supposed to happen? I don't know where the extra width came into play unless it is the wheel driver?
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Posted - 11/18/2010 :  14:01:00  Show Profile
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Originally posted by GR40 LSC

So I just converted a lil jeep to 2wd, but I needed a longer axle to make it work? Is this supposed to happen? I don't know where the extra width came into play unless it is the wheel driver?



I used the same axle.

Did you seat the wheel driver in the wheel on both sides? That can take up an extra inch or so.
And you did remove the spacer, right?


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Posted - 11/18/2010 :  14:07:31  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Divinar

quote:
Originally posted by GR40 LSC

So I just converted a lil jeep to 2wd, but I needed a longer axle to make it work? Is this supposed to happen? I don't know where the extra width came into play unless it is the wheel driver?



I used the same axle.

Did you seat the wheel driver in the wheel on both sides? That can take up an extra inch or so.
And you did remove the spacer, right?



Yep, I removed the spacer and I thought I had the drivers seated fully. I did use lock collars instead of the push caps though? I don't think those make that much of a difference. I am getting ready to do another one this weekend so I guess I will take a look at the one I did and check the motors and drivers are seated all the way together.
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Posted - 11/19/2010 :  10:00:34  Show Profile
So are we calling the spacer the 2 inch piece of plastic that took up the room that the new gear box takes, or are we talking about the small plastic "washers" that are located between the gearbox and the wheel?

I removed the large spacer, but the smaller ones I left on both sides. Removing those gives me the room I need to use the same axle. But why are they there in the first place?
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Posted - 11/19/2010 :  11:50:28  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by GR40 LSC

So are we calling the spacer the 2 inch piece of plastic that took up the room that the new gear box takes, or are we talking about the small plastic "washers" that are located between the gearbox and the wheel?

I removed the large spacer, but the smaller ones I left on both sides. Removing those gives me the room I need to use the same axle. But why are they there in the first place?



The "spacer" is the 2" block.
The washers should fit mostly inside the wheels - I'll try to get a picture this weekend...


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Posted - 11/19/2010 :  12:09:13  Show Profile
The small spacer is there to prevent the wheel from putting a side load on the drive gear. Not all models have them. A washer or two will work also and will be thinner. You don't want the driver bottomed out hard in the drive gear.

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